Robocalls Telco Liability

This cluster focuses on spam calls and robocalls, with commenters blaming telecom companies for enabling them through routing and spoofing while profiting, and advocating for financial liability, fines, and stricter regulations to force solutions.

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yalogin Dec 27, 2022 View on HN

The telcos have all my info, name, ssn, address everything. They can easily prevent all of this. These spammers generate revenue for the telcos and so for them spoofing calls is a service they are providing and don’t want to remove that “feature”

cjbgkagh Jul 4, 2024 View on HN

I think that is intentional, AFAIK phone communication is more protected than other types so allowing spam to continue unabated is in the governments interest. Outsourcing the harassment to 3rd parties, similar to how prison torture is outsourced to the inmates. The government could fix these things but would rather not.

shkkmo Dec 21, 2021 View on HN

Why can't the telcos be held liable for routing these calls? If you get scammed and could sue the phone company, they'd very quickly find real solutions.

tjopies Sep 24, 2025 View on HN

There are hundreds of these operations at any one moment in time, some more legit than others (voip dial backs, short message farms for scammers) not sure why they are making this out to be the end all and be all of this type of things. Telcos have the ability to lock these down pretty quickly using proximity of devices alone, but the almighty dollar is more important ;)

nostromo Dec 27, 2022 View on HN

Telcos are one of the most regulated industries in existence.And as I point out in my sibling comment, bad regulation is the reason this problem exists: because telcos are not legally able to block most spam calls. If not for this regulation, telcos would have solved spam callers long ago by blocking suspected sources of spam. (Instead, they do work-arounds like labeling them "scam likely.")

hermes8329 Nov 20, 2021 View on HN

Because the phone companies are not held accountable for facilitating itIf they were this would have been solved yesterday

opendomain Jun 4, 2017 View on HN

I am a big fan of twillio, but I suspect that they or companies like it are contributing to the problem.I would like everyone that uses a telephone API to be required to register a bond. If they are found abusing the system, they will lose the bond and be banned from using ANY companies telephone system.That telephony companies do not take the opportunity fix tbe actual problem makes me think a court may be able to find they are complicit.

silexia Nov 18, 2024 View on HN

People gave up on reporting spam calls. We need to make telcos financially liable for carrying spam calls. And put the death penalty on those who make them.

LinuxBender Dec 6, 2019 View on HN

Instead of fines, I would rather see mandatory SS7 circuit decom for any business that facilitates these calls, spoofed text messages, etc. Same goes for ISP's. Facilitate this nonsense, lose your AS number and IP allocations.

viraptor Aug 7, 2019 View on HN

If appropriate laws existed, you could still put pressure on them. Something like "if your international partner sends more than X spam calls, you're responsible for them". The telco would have a choice of getting fined or dropping the interconnect / filtering that source. On the other side, the telco in Bangalore doesn't want to lose the ability to handle calls to the US, so starts monitoring itself.