Avionics Touch Screens

The cluster discusses the adoption of touch screens versus physical controls in aircraft cockpits and avionics, focusing on reliability, FAA regulations, redundancy, and examples from Garmin, airliners, and iPads.

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gok Mar 31, 2020 View on HN

I suppose you don't include the flight manuals as a critical system, since those have been touch screens for almost a decade?

simon_acca Aug 31, 2024 View on HN

They have this on airliners now https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_operations_quality_as...

cyberferret Jul 11, 2017 View on HN

Ironically, it is mainly because of reliability. Every system on an aircraft HAS to have double or triple redundancy by law, and a lot of these systems ARE antiquated by usual consumer standards.A lot of pilots these days have iPads in the cockpit to assist with this, but in nearly all airlines and aircraft types, these are unauthorised devices that are not part of the certification. Generally they are used for non critical things like manuals or checklists, but I know of pilots that

davidhariri Apr 2, 2020 View on HN

All the latest Garmin avionics include touch screens. Airplane cockpits aren't the right metaphor because they are largely driven automatically.

JudgeWapner Apr 16, 2019 View on HN

I don't see how anything is wrong with "large, ugly beige" electronics. 737's fly everyday just fine. What benefits are they going to get from sleek, thin Jony Ive-inspired UX? Are they going to get to destinations faster? Are they going to have a smoother ride? What product requirements could possibly change that would necessitate upgrading the avionics?All these high-tech upgrades have downsides. Fiber optic is very slow to be adopted in aviation because movement

selectodude Mar 13, 2019 View on HN

Probably southwest pilots. If it’s not analog it’s too much for them.

code4tee Dec 27, 2017 View on HN

It’s actually the airlines dragging their feet on a lot of this, not “30 year old ATC.” Many airlines don’t upgrade their planes to have the latest equipment. Flew in a small personal plane with a friend that’s a pilot and he was explaining how in several areas his small plane has more advanced avionics than commercial airliners. For example, his plane is certified to fly the latest 3D GPS based landing approaches while many commercial airliners still don’t have the necessary equipment onboard.

tfe Nov 20, 2010 View on HN

It's because everything in an airliner is heavily regulated by the FAA. Everything has to be rigorously tested and certified.This just increases the development cycle length. Compare to car nav systems, which also lag behind. Then add the length of the certification process, (even more extreme) conservatism in the industry, installation time (airliner must be taken out of service for a week or two, which is a lot of forgone revenue), etc.Also, there are power consumption and weight conside

zobzu Mar 9, 2014 View on HN

actually, HF radios with digital, encrypted & authenticated communication work GPS works, too internet safe for business fliers but not the pilot? please. it doesnt mean the whole plane relies on internet.those 3 should probably be added to current planes, regardless.i'm not sure why you think there is a single system with a "CPU" in a plane either. there's multiple independent systems - some electronic, some analog.all this not much to do with visualization or p

wf Mar 3, 2014 View on HN

>>why do you think planes and other complex machinery have stuck with physical controls?They're not, Garmin has offered not only custom touch screen flight decks[0] but they also have an ipad app that can be flown with.[1][0]https://buy.garmin.com/en-GB/GB/aviation/flight-decks/g3000-... [1]<a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/garmin-pil