PhD Value Debate

Cluster discusses the merits, drawbacks, and career implications of pursuing a PhD, especially its relevance for industry jobs in tech and sciences versus academia, and the skills it imparts.

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Before getting a PhD, you should consider that this might make you less qualified than someone holding a bachelors or masters degree. As the author states, academia breaks you down and remakes you in its image, which will make it harder for potential employers to break you down and remake you in theirs, and they generally know that. Unless I was running a research lab, I would prefer to hire someone with a master level of education before a PhD unless the research topic involved buildin

ThrowawayR2 Dec 21, 2021 View on HN

A PhD certifies that you are able to do research independently, at least in theory. Unless you are aiming for one of the very few CS research positions in industry or for one of the jobs developing a product that require very specific cutting edge knowledge that your research happens to have been in, a PhD is likely to be of very little use.

mmagin Oct 18, 2016 View on HN

Why bother getting into a PhD program?

ddebernardy Jul 10, 2018 View on HN

Is having a PhD really that big a deal to get a job in tech in the US?

akjssdk Jan 20, 2023 View on HN

To be fair, this is really field dependent. In the sciences this is (mostly) true, but in the humanities your output for your PhD is sometimes just your thesis. The problem is fundamentally that the PhD traject is geared towards an academic career, but there are not enough academic positions for all those PhD students, so they end up in industry. And there their skills don't really translate that well, as OP also says.

gaius Apr 9, 2009 View on HN

A PhD is an apprenticeship to become an academic. If you aren't planning to take your career in that direction it's hard to see a reason to do one. It's a negative in the non-academic job market.

prerok Sep 30, 2025 View on HN

Industries that want PhDs are quite limited IME. Very few companies are running their own research labs. I guess pharma would but in CS? Not one company in my country.I also don't remember seeing PhD requirement/advantage in who's hiring on HN. There may be, but they are for sure rare.In my country, in some job positions, a company is also required to give higher salaries to PhDs, so they reject such candidates because of overqualification. I know of a few cases where people

cup Mar 27, 2014 View on HN

I have a PhD in Pharmaceutical Science / Biomedicine.Its easy to confuse the value a PhD holds and there is a large amount of misinformation around the internet which doesn't help. The following are my opinions and experiences and shouldn't be viewed as an authority. Different PhDs, different specialties and different universities will result in different experiences and outcomes.A PhD is simply a ticket that gives its holder an opportunity to move into fields (academia typi

cousin_it May 6, 2009 View on HN

I agree that people can enter and follow the programming career path easily without a PhD. Completing a PhD equips you to follow your dream of science, of being a patent clerk by day and brilliant theorist by night, but it doesn't exactly help you make money. Like studying classical music for ten years and then complaining you can't get a job: dude, I hate to upset you, but a "job" wasn't the point at all.

elmozyz Aug 28, 2018 View on HN

There is an obvious conflict of interest but it doesnt make his views invalid. Several other PhDs have said pretty much the same thing. Frankly, I dont see much more utility for working in industry beyond a Masters. You really should have the skills to learn anything else by the time you complete a thesis.