Modern Star Trek Criticism

check out The Orville, it is more of a classic star trek than the new official star treks

It's not blasphemy for me :). I'm having real troubles considering Discovery and Picard (and JJ movies) as canon - they're just too different from all the earlier installments up to ENT (including). Instead of optimistic and cerebral experience, we're now getting generic violent action movies with nonsense plots.In my head, the only true successors to Star Trek as it was up to 2005 are 1) The Orville, and 2) Star Trek: Lower Decks. Apparently it turns out you have to marke

All the recent Star Trek films and TV shows have been lazy prequels or rehashes of the early Federation days. I'd like to see some new Trek, such as transition to a post-scarcity society between ST:TOS and ST:TNG or something a thousand years in the future. I want to see the speculative fiction that Geordi La Forge reads. :)

It's now like Star Trek movies.

> I do miss the optimistic view of the original Star Trek series.If you haven't yet, check out The Orville. It's the spiritual successor to Roddenberry's vision of Star Trek.It got badly marketed as a comedy in space akin to Galaxy Quest, but that was mostly bad marketing. The first episode or two were high on the comedy (and I've heard a theory that they did it to trick Fox into picking up the series), but it rapidly toned down, to where it's more like

Honestly the only Star Trek I've enjoyed since Voyager is Lower Decks, which is the first one that actually captures some of the fun again. The Orville feels more like Star Trek than any of the recent films or Discovery.Maybe it's just because I grew up with TNG/DS9/Voyager, but I really don't care about rehashes of TOS timelines, prequels, or any of that rubbish. Or, honestly, pretty much any Star Trek movie. I'm all about the episodic setup that worked so well

Sure there are lots of terrible Star Trek episodes. But being episodic, that's fine. These new treks are all just aping off the old shows. One which is basically just the Voyager premise done again. And one(or two? I've lost count at this point) that tries to cash in on TNG nostalgia.I'm sure Strange New Worlds is the most competent rehashing of old ideas so far, but meh! Make something original. Go to the 25th century, make all new characters, a new ship, new technologies, new

I'm going to counterpoint a bit.There's a LOT of nostalgia for TNG in these comments; nostalgia primarily for the storylines and world, which the writers of Picard clearly didn't pick up on, and went with the "nostalgia for the characters" route + grimdark, and I'm not here to defend Picard. Season 1 and 2 were written like crap, Season 3 will probably also be written like crap, I'll watch it because of the characters, it won't really be remembered as &

Hmmm maybe it's more of a Roddenberry era trek vs later trek kind of thing. That was an early episode of TNG from when he was still alive. Star trek kind of changed direction after that. I liked the later series, but they did lack something the original series and early TNG had.>(TBH I don't love where Star Trek is right now, but they've got a long way to go before they run out.)I just wish they'd continue the story after Voyager instead of going further and further

Thank you for this reply! Made my day. While I enjoy the newer Star Trek (Discovery/Picard) they have season long arcs and when they stumble on themes like the ones you identified, they’re a side plot to the season’s arc. The morality in and out of universe is never really considered or elaborated on. It’s all about the season’s arc and intense theme music. It may be blasphemous and they definitely have a much more comedic vibe but it’s why I prefer The Orville to the newer Treks.