Tech Diversity Discrimination
Debates center on racism, sexism, bias, and diversity problems in the tech industry, including Hacker News' tendency to downvote or dismiss related discussions.
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Your comment is just classic whataboutism. I don't doubt that there are problems with diversity and discrimination in non-tech industries, but that doesn't mean we don't have some serious problems that need to be addressed.
Maybe on which programming language or framework is best. Most articles regarding race/gender discrimination even if they directly involve major tech firms are flagged and downvoted by large portions of the community. If they survive the initial wave, the top comments are usually pretty dismissive
I think it's disingenuous to immediately turn the conversation from understanding the author's situation to talking about your own, including whether diversity is your problem. The author doesn't say it's your problem or ask you to do anything about it, and most of the conversation here on HN is currently about understanding the piece (including the parts where she says she is making an effort to work on making tech a better place for black women). I appreciate the discussion
I'll agree with you partially. This sort of thing is definitely going down based on race/orientation as well, but I see less of that and more men vs women sorts of discussions.It's not just a tech problem either. This stuff is going on all around the world. I don't claim to have solutions to these problems, but I would appreciate it if the public shaming and witch hunts would stop. I'm tired, SV. So very tired.I've never worked at AT&T but I'd wager t
I'm honestly shocked at the lack of empathy on display in this comment thread. The technology world has a diversity problem—why not assume that this is a good-faith effort to address it, just expressed in words you don't like? Why instead flip directly into Internet Outrage Status?This kind of outpouring of rage, to be frank, is why Hacker News has such a bad reputation. Look around at the comments here: there are people complaining about the very notion that there might be s
The original conversation about this was buried @ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6823279 the fact that the majority of comments were in support of rejecting this rather obvious improvement was shocking.Its also extremely worrying that the thread was buried (as I half expect this will be) and having a discussion about this topic is somewhere between censored and frowned upon on Hacker News.I have
First, let me claim that I am unwillfully ignorant of how to begin to treat these balancing issues - so take it easy in my response. I think that articles like this (the tone is a bit flame bait) actually are part of this problem.We don't need to turn this issue into what race has become in America - where white people are scared to ask each other - let alone a black friend - about the issue in a rational way. It's fucked up a lot of good intentions, and replaced them with empty PC platitudes
The really sad thing is that there actually is sexism and racism towards women and minorities in various subtle ways at lots of tech companies. I've seen it first-hand myself. But this antagonistic line of thinking isn't helping. It just makes things worse for everyone.The majority of sexism and racism that I've seen is probably subconscious and doesn't really seem intentional per se. People often just don't realize the side-effects of what they're saying or do
My head is not in the sand. Your head is in the sand if you say that every single tech company condones sexual harassment. It's actually an extraordinary claim that's hard to believe, but it's become so common to make bold claims about the ubiquity and universality of racism and sexism that it sounds normal to us. The idea is that if a woman is saying she likes her job as an engineer and doesn't feel mistreated, there's something wrong with that story and I'm sure s
I guess the point I was trying to make was lost on you somehow.I wasn't trying to say this is the exact same thing and that racism is something you'd hear about as frequently as sexism these days ! I was trying to make the parallel that just a few decades ago it would've been a perfectly acceptable thing to play it safe and say ".. than that's who we're hirig." based purely on this kind of skewed reasoning about races.The reason you hear more about women