Meritocracy Debate

Discussions revolve around the definition, existence, myths, and desirability of meritocracy, often referencing its satirical origins by Michael Young and critiques of its real-world implementations as elitocracy or corruption.

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C1sc0cat β€’ Oct 22, 2020 β€’ View on HN

"Meritocracy" as originally defined does not mean what you think it does

sjg007 β€’ May 30, 2013 β€’ View on HN

this is what they call meritocracy.

squigz β€’ Mar 27, 2024 β€’ View on HN

Relevant to b) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_meritocracy

adrianN β€’ Oct 5, 2020 β€’ View on HN

The system is meritocratic, you just don't agree with its definition of merit.

watwut β€’ Sep 23, 2017 β€’ View on HN

But, it is supposed to be meritocracy. \snark

shrewduser β€’ Jan 10, 2016 β€’ View on HN

What problem exactly are you trying to solve? and is that problem caused by meritocracy or something else?

kesselvon β€’ Jul 7, 2017 β€’ View on HN

That's kind of implying a meritocracy actually exists.

simianwords β€’ Aug 3, 2025 β€’ View on HN

It reinforces meritocracy. What’s the alternative?

type0 β€’ Jun 18, 2016 β€’ View on HN

There really is no meritocracy as such it is just the other name for elitocracy, you know the buddy society that favors corruption. In academia the merits are often not assigned objectively even in hard sciences, If you think that everything is based on merits, everything becomes a merit, knowing some famous professor becomes a merit regardless that is because your uncle is his friend. And don't get me started on the elitocracy in politics and other institutions.

walshemj β€’ Sep 6, 2017 β€’ View on HN

meritocracy doesn't mean what you think it does.