Android Open Source Debate

The cluster revolves around debates on whether Android is truly open source, with core comments emphasizing Google's control, proprietary components like Google apps, and the limitations of AOSP despite its open licensing.

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Sample Comments

9cb14c1ec0 Apr 24, 2025 View on HN

Android is source partially open, not anywhere close to true open source.

meira Aug 17, 2016 View on HN

Android would not be Android if it wasn't open source, too.

orbifold Nov 18, 2017 View on HN

Android is not open source in the same way that gcc is. Sure it uses an open source license, but it is fully controlled by google.

JTenerife Mar 31, 2014 View on HN

Actually, Android is not entirely open source. Some key components are closed source, that's why project like cyanogenmod exist.

vermilingua Jan 16, 2020 View on HN

Android is open source in the same way that Chrome is. That is to say, not.

throwaway4good Jan 25, 2023 View on HN

Google is in full control of android. Android open source is much more about making it hard for new competitors to emerge (as they would have to compete with something that is free). Fuchsia has similar open source components.From a consumer (and therefore business) perspective Android is useless without Google mobile services. Just witness what happened Huawei to phone sales when they were forced over to Android open source on nearly perfect hardware.

ricardobeat Jan 6, 2013 View on HN

Android is not really open-source, you can only get source code for old versions, never the latest release.

scarface_74 Oct 6, 2025 View on HN

Surely you aren’t talking about Android as “open source”. To a first approximation no one wants a phone running only AOSP without Google’s proprietary parts.

choko Sep 29, 2012 View on HN

Seiously guy, go away. I'm so tired of hearing this. Android is open, Google apps are not. You can download the source for Android right now, modify it freely, and put it on a device. It may not be as open as some Linux distros, in that not everyone can submit code that will make it in to the official distro, but it is still open.

guelo Jan 16, 2015 View on HN

Android is "fully open source" except that Google writes 99.999% of the code in secret. Rarely they will accept a pull request but there is zero transparency into that process.