James Damore Firing

Can't speak for others, but I commented 2 weeks ago Google was right to fire both Gebru and Damore:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25308875

What happened? Google fired someone for citing politically incorrect scientific facts in a memo trying to use those facts to guide making the workplace as welcoming to femanine personalities as it is to masculine. (Much of the tech industry certainly seems biased in that respect, currently.)There’s a lot of propaganda out there; if you think a Damore said women were at all less competent than men, go read the actual memo complete with citations and graphs.Obviously naming political incorre

I don't really understand the negativity being leveled at this guy. He has presented an opinion, whether you agree with his opinion or his presentation format, he does not seem to have taken any actions in a malicious way. He appears to have simply used the approved channels provided by google to air an employment related grievance.That the memo was not addressed and discussed by Google management prior to it going viral after being available for several months is no ones fault but Googl

and this is why they had to fire him. he can make 9 good points but 1 bad one and the only outcome is termination. i think google did the right thing. if this memo was 1/3 as long and only talked about censorship and diversity strategy, and left out the gender pseudoscience, he would probably still have his job. it was totally unnecessary to try and rationalize with uncited generalizations

Google infamously fired a male engineer for speculating on such things.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google's_Ideological_Echo_Ch...

I'm still making up my mind on this one, but for the sake of argument, I'll disagree with you.The workplace was the venue for this, because 'this' was evidence was that Google(his workplace)'s diversity initiatives and censorship were harming the company. He attempted to go through the proper channels (HR) as discussed in another part of the comment section for this very article.Completely ignored by HR, and after some watercooler discussion in which he rece

Isn't that why James Damore was fired? He wrote an internal communication Google didn't like.

Don't forget the Damore case. Regardless of people's views on content of his memo, this was a case of Google essentially baiting an employee to express their honest views on internal forum, and then firing them for not agreeing with the prescribed party line.

"Google employees are free to speak up" ... I think James Damore would disagree.

I agree. However, I disagree with this statement:"Former Googler Leslie Miley said he does not believe Google would have handled it the same way if Gebru were a white man. "James Damore was also fired from Google, also in a controversy about ethics. I think this is really about freedom of expression, and debate. It's impossible to have this within (and outside) a corporation, because employees are not protected enough.This could be solved by having stronger unions. Unfort