COVID Elderly Mortality Debate

> It is killing the elderly and those with co-morbidities. Any "spike" is barely a blip.I’ve been seeing this ageist and eugenics-like language coming up quite a lot lately and it’s really disturbing to me.Why is it OK that hundreds of thousands of people are dying because they are mostly older? Should we amend our laws so it’s OK to murder anyone above a certain age, because they’re elderly so who cares?Why is it OK that people with pre-existing health conditions are dying

But it's not. 55 year olds are not dropping like flies like you're implying in your previous, false, statement [0][1].Furthermore I have contracted it and guess what, I'm fine _now_ (sure we could argue about "long term effects" but at the moment that is big unknown). I'm also quite young so that played a part of course.It's not dismissive to say everyone has to go sometime, it's just the truth.If you're willing to sacrifice resources to give

I don't argue for no countermeasures due to moral reasons, but I think this is highly misleading. More than half of the deaths from this disease are from people over 80. The majority of people over 80 contribute nothing to the economy, but do receive social services, take up housing, have expensive healthcare, etc. If thanos snapped away everybody over 80, I think the economy would IMPROVE because we suddenly have an enormous chunk of resources that can be used for more useful things than c

"Let's lock down young healthy people's lives for 2 years so that the 86 year olds make it to 87"

People dying of "old age" is normal. Just wait until the UK strain (which seems to affect the young more[1]) makes its presence known this side of the Atlantic.[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-31/faster-sp...

It's crazy how you brush aside the elderly and "unhealthy" as people who can die without your consideration and you think their deaths only 'mess up' the numbers. They are treated like an undesirable population whose deaths shouldn't be taken into account.Shouldn't we vaccinate, wear masks and social distance if only to help the elderly and "unhealthy"?

I don't necessarily subscribe to this point of view (I don't know what I believe; I need to think more), but allow me to play devil's advocate consider: most of the people who die from this disease are old people who have already lived their lives. The young are giving up the opportunity to live their lives by staying home to stop the spread, when they predominately aren't at risk of death. Should the young give up their lives to save the old? The young already sacrifice subs

You are wrong because - a) Risk of death among the sickest and weakest is way higher than the "normal", across all age groups. b) We do not know much about the virus. It appears to have strange trait of being more deadly if initial exposure was higher. In Russia, for example ~7% (!) of all Covid deaths are deaths of medical workers, many of them are relatively young and apparently healthy. c) We also do not know what are long term consequences of the disease, even if you survived it ju

That's what always struck me. Sure the majority are old but they're still dying from COVID not from something else, also there's a significant number that aren't old and if we do nothing because the most at risk portion are already old we're going to lose a lot that aren't. We spend massive amounts of money keeping the elderly alive every day because we recognize that time is important and precious for these people and their families so we don't just dump them

Why should we be faced with a massive expense to care for the elderly? From the dataset, 80% of deaths were to those over 60 years old, 75% of whom had underlying health issues.Societies around the world are already under a massive burden from excessive healthcare and pension costs to pay for sick and old people.To the contrary, if nCOV was allowed to spread, it would spare the world of this huge burden.Similarly, it doesn't make sense to quarantine huge sections of the planet and