Immigrant Selection Bias

The cluster discusses how immigrants to the US, especially from distant countries like Asia, are self-selected for traits like education, ambition, skills, and resources, making them unrepresentative of their home countries and contributing to their success compared to natives or poorer immigrants from nearby regions.

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ardit33 Aug 3, 2021 View on HN

This is pretty wrong. Most immigrants come from much poorer countries, and they themselves have to restart everything from scratch, with little saving and no home ownership.People coming from the Philipines, or India, or Eastern Europe, post communism from the 90s had to restart everything from scratch, including learning the language, yet over time they end up doing well.You have this weird mentality, that all immigrants are coming rich, and from rich countries, which is the opposite fro

hueving Mar 18, 2016 View on HN

It's the latter. These immigrants aren't poor uneducated people like you would encounter in an impoverished part of the US.

taurath Jun 17, 2020 View on HN

Immigrants tend to have a high amount of education or resources relative to the societies they come from. Those immigrants come with their own sets of biases. Social infrastructure for, say, Indian people moving to Bellevue, WA in terms of social connections and wealth is better than Black american's have just ever had.

qq66 Oct 14, 2010 View on HN

Using immigrants as a proxy for anything is very suspect since emigrants to the US are a self-selected subset of a country's population. Compare the average intelligence, ambition, and work ethic of an Indian-American immigrant, that immigrant's American-born child, and the average resident of India.

tcbawo Jun 5, 2015 View on HN

I'm not an expert in this area, by any means. And I certainly can't speak for these people. But, I imagine on average that the people who choose/are able to immigrate here have an above average work ethic, skill set, or access to resources. There are probably many people who never have the chance to start a life here. Its not a direct comparison.

wes-exp May 10, 2013 View on HN

A lot of immigrants to the US manage to immigrate specifically because they are high achievers. As such, it makes sense that immigrants as a statistical group would not really be representative of their home country.

chickenpotpie Aug 24, 2021 View on HN

Selection bias: immigrating to the US from a far away country is easier if you’re educated and rich. Doesn’t mean you’re treated any better once you get here.

countrybama24 Feb 28, 2014 View on HN

There is a selection bias here. Immigrating from Asia is significantly more difficult and expensive than Central America. I would hypothesize that immigrants from these areas are more ambitious, economically better off and more capable on average than immigrants from nearby countries (and maybe even "native" Americans). Additionally, immigrants are more likely to assimilate into local American life and have better relationships with American institutions (police, schools, etc.) than Af

shantanubala Nov 3, 2011 View on HN

Since the financial barrier for immigrating from Asia is much greater than immigrating from Latin America, a greater portion of the Asian population in the United States will inevitably be skilled or educated. A person who can barely afford food isn't going to think about buying a plane ticket when they can eat a few more meals. On the other hand, a person who can barely afford food may consider walking in the Sonoran Desert because it doesn't require a significant amount of money.There's a l

ripe Aug 23, 2022 View on HN

Immigrants come in many categories.I immigrated to the US as a highly educated engineer from a poor Asian country. My country was poor, but not terrible, not a dictatorship, etc. If I had never immigrated, I would still have done fine, although in absolute terms maybe I wouldn't be as rich as I am today.My journey was completely different from a farm laborer from Latin America. People like me came through university student visas, converted to worker visas, and paid fees to immigrate