Mama/Papa Linguistics

Discussions explore the universal use of 'mama' and 'papa' (or similar) for mother and father across languages, explained by babies' easy pronunciation of these sounds, with examples from various cultures and debates on kinship terms.

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jwbensley Feb 16, 2019 View on HN

"How do you refer to your mother?"I say "mother", why is that not in the list of predefined answers!?!"Which of these words (if any) would you use for a baby?"Baby. I say "baby" to describe a baby. How is this also not in the list of common answers!I say many words for many things, e.g. I also say "sprog" for baby which was one of the predefined answers. What I can't understand is why these predefined answer sets don't cont

Terr_ Mar 7, 2018 View on HN

It's not that weird, people are just following the same grammatical pattern that is coming accepted for parental words like "mother" or "father".The noun becomes a contextual nickname or way to address them. Compare:For baby's brain, do X.For mommy's sanity, do Y.

asimjalis Jun 13, 2020 View on HN

What about ma the word for mother? That seems more universal.

why-el May 13, 2013 View on HN

I don't see where you disagree with the article. From what I understood, the article is suggesting that the reason we all have mama, papa or similar words in our languages is their relatively easy prononciation coupled with the baby's needs. Where is it saying that mama definitely means mother?

n6242 Jan 19, 2024 View on HN

Language should be adequate to the context of a conversation. If you were writing a legal document, or some policy for a kindergarten it might make sense to make that distinction, but this is a public forum with many non-native speakers. Parents is a concept pretty much all of us are familiar with and if you say parents we'll understand you mean people using the service because they care for young kids.

joe__f Sep 8, 2023 View on HN

Do you propose an explanation for why they are always this way round? Eg. you may expect some language to use 'mama' for father and 'papa' for mother based on your reasoning.

thenewwazoo Mar 3, 2020 View on HN

My grandmother occasionally calls her children by each others' names. She's done it her entire life. She even mixes up her son's name and her daughters'. What she named her children is "fundamental and basic", too, and she's certainly an expert in how they're named. Heck, they're not even spelled similarly.Please help keep HN a nicer place by giving others the benefit of the doubt.

stavros Jun 17, 2023 View on HN

Similarly to when people call their significant others "baby".

davchana Jan 21, 2021 View on HN

In my childhood, all of my parents' siblings, cousins relationship had specific names, like for elder brother of father, brother of mom, sister of parents, their spouses. But anybody outside of that closer circle was Uncle or Aunty. Plus, because enrolling your kids in an english medium was prestigious, & expensive, those schools taught us to use english words, like mummy, papa, daddy, uncle, aunty. It felt like us kids using the english words were making our teachers & parents spen

The_Colonel Feb 12, 2024 View on HN

Doesn't "mother" work just fine to cover these cases as well? It just sounds like an unnecessary awkward neologism.