Locals vs Newcomers in Communities

The cluster discusses tensions between long-time residents of declining small towns, rural areas, or Rust Belt communities and newcomers like digital nomads or outsiders, who are criticized for destroying local communities, economies, and ways of life while seeking authentic experiences. Key debates include community preservation, economic failure, housing conflicts, redevelopment, and attachment to place despite hardship.

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southerntofu Sep 2, 2019 View on HN

Neither option is humane. In both cases, the capitalist illness has destroyed any sense of community.Nobody in big cities knows their neighbors. And very few people organize against poverty, against their bosses, landlords, and police abuse. They could have a good life if they did, but don't underestimate the capacity of an oppressive system to isolate people (because it's the only way it can survive).

redwood Mar 22, 2024 View on HN

They'd be destroying their community

I don't have to live with these people anymore.Their "communities" are dieing, their businesses are failing, and their smart kid leave. The only question is whether those fools death throes doom the rest of us.Hilariously, on the fringes they're being supplanted by refugees from metro areas that got priced out. Those people are bringing sanity to the wasteland with them like pilgrims in an unholy land.From my perspective, I can do little to nothing to influence how a

itsoktocry Aug 16, 2023 View on HN

>Nobody wants to admit that a community has failed. Go for a stroll through the Rust Belt or any other economically devastated area. People still live there, despite the misery!What you call misery, others call home, and have an attachment to the land.Go for a stroll through San Francisco and see people living in tents and defecating on the sidewalk. Maybe everyone should move to California to commute hours to work (because you can't afford to live anywhere near your job).

sarkozy Jan 16, 2011 View on HN

Sounds like you live in an affluent or at least broadly educated area, if people broadly have such high-minded concerns about the welfare of the community. Your experience may not translate to more economically-mixed neighborhoods.

lmc May 8, 2022 View on HN

I think this is a really interesting discussion. I'm a bit of a nomad myself and cautious of the things you bring up - if everyone behaved like this, there'd be no community development and things would decay. But, you already see this in more common situations, like the movement of young people to cities, e.g.:https://www.bbc.com&

ironmagma May 8, 2021 View on HN

Sounds like a great way to build a neighborhood full of miserable people. What was the goal again?

raptor99 Aug 11, 2021 View on HN

So locals don't like it, and all the outsiders that moved in are questioning why aren't more communities built this way...

eldavido May 4, 2018 View on HN

Typical collective action problem. Everybody wants to move here but nobody wants to house them.At some point the business community just has to pull a Bezos and be like, OK guys, fine, you don't want us here, we're packing up, bye. Then see what happens when all those pension and infrastructure payments come due. Hilarity will ensue.

thatfrenchguy Mar 12, 2019 View on HN

Have you read the article ? The "new" way of doing things have horrible externalities that can destroy those communities.