WP Engine WordPress Dispute
The cluster discusses the conflict between Matt Mullenweg/Automattic and WP Engine, focusing on allegations of insufficient contributions to WordPress core, trademark misuse, branding confusion, and competitive hosting practices.
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WPEngine do not profit off of Wordpress brand any more (or less) than a shoe store selling Nike shoes.WPEngine are profiting off of the service they provide, which is hosting software, which happens to be Wordpress.Wordpress can't say anything about contributing to wordpress core when Wordpress the supposedly seperate foundation in fact only serves the purposes of Automattic, and inhibits or rejects prs that Matt and Automattic don't want, ie anything that works against their pai
Mullenweg has for a little while claimed that WP Engine does not contribute sufficiently to the open-source WordPress project, that its branding causes confusion among users, and that it ships an inferior product that reflects badly on WordPress as a whole.WP Engine disputes this and sent Mullenweg & Automattic a cease-and-desist letter, intending to stop the disparaging comments.In reponse, Mullenweg cut off WP Engine customers from the theme and plugin repositories hosted at WordPres
WordPress has been around for a long time, and there is no change to how open it is. It is GPL code, Automattic is not forking it and selling access to the fork.We are just asking WP Engine to contribute back to the project that they are basing their entire business on.This is primarily a trademark infringement issue, we asked them to give back to be able to use the trademark we have the license for.
The real problem with WP Engine is that they have been doing very well as a service. Many people believe them to be the most trusted hosting especially in the premium sector. This is earned reputation that Matt would much rather have for his companies.All the stuff of them not contributing (while they maintain some of the most essential plugins) and them taking advantage… Is simply desperate search for arguments. Wordpress is open-source project licensed under GPLv2 you can use it however you
I'm not involved in the WordPress ecosystem, but am an outsider looking in. I don't have all of the facts and am not a lawyer, so this is just my 2 cents.Quoting the referenced article:1. Contributing to WordPressSo here’s my question: what do you think of a company that, with close to half a billion dollars in revenue, and more than a thousand staff, barely contributes the equivalent of one full-time employee to the project on which it has built the entirety of its value?<
I believe in this instance he’s referring to WP Engine installations of WordPress pulling from the WP.org plugin & theme registries.There is a longer story in which Mullenweg has claimed that WP Engine does not contribute sufficiently to the WordPress open-source project, and that the use of “WP” in their name supposedly created confusion and infringes the trademarks of the WordPress open-source project. WP Engine disputes this.Of course the elephant in the room is that Mullenweg is th
According to his recent interview on Primeagen, he argues that WPEngine operations incur high costs to his company, due to the millions of installations consuming resources from Wordpress.org. And despite being a very large player, they contribute nothing back to the ecosystem. He argues that they even illegally modified code attributions (stripe plugin) which diverts millions from Automattic. The fact that it took, apparently, so long for him to take some action can be interpreted in his favor,
Related:WP Engine sent “cease and desist” letter to Automattic (279 points, 1 day ago, 223 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41631912Open Source, Trademarks, and WP Engine (30 points, 1 hours ago, 19 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41642597
It's not new, Matt has been trying to reach an agreement for years.[1] To be fair, he has done everything he can for the health of the ecosystem for all these years.WP Engine leech off the WordPress brand from head to toe. Literally, from trademark to infrastructure, while Automattic covers the bill for the most part.Of course, legally, WPE doesn't have to contribute beyond its mouth but if we are going down that route then also Automattic doesn't have to put up with funding
This feels like a private which has reached the public shorn of the context that would be necessary to understand it.I use Wpengine and have enjoyed it. They have some aggressive upsells and you learn you can ignore them. Actually had no idea about revisions, hadn't used them before I hosted with Wpengine.I very much like using Wordpress and Wpengine has helped make it easy to do so. I'm sure they have some things to work put between them but I feel this needs more info. At a cer