Rare Earth Elements

Comments discuss the misconception that rare earth elements are scarce, emphasizing their abundance but challenges in mining and refining due to high costs, pollution, and regulations, with China dominating production.

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imtringued Mar 11, 2021 View on HN

https://imgur.com/QwKBMvnI'm not sure why rare Earth minerals would be a bottleneck. They aren't rare in the element abundance sense, just uneconomical to extract, which is why they are being extracted in countries where human rights violations are happening all the time.

ck2 Feb 9, 2025 View on HN

"rare earth metals" aren't "rare" to the USAThey are "rare" per ton of earth in generalSo it's just that mining them is so labor intensive and so toxic (uranium and other radioactivity) that it is expensive outside of places like China.Automate that with bots or whatnot and maybe we don't have to invade Canada and Greenland and start WW3

Jensson Jan 12, 2023 View on HN

Not everyone has lots of rare earths... USA for example has just 1.8 million tonnes, and Europe currently has no significant rare earth mines. Rare earths are everywhere, true, but it is very rare to find them in high enough concentrations to be worth mining.https://investingnews.com/daily

wonnage Apr 10, 2022 View on HN

I remember reading something similar with China’s dominance of rare earth elements - the US has plenty of mines but it costs too much to mine them and the entire rest of the supply chain is in China, so there’s not much domestic demand

dragonshed Oct 16, 2013 View on HN

Nitpick: China doesn't have a monopoly on rare earth metals, they just have the least restrictive policies on mining them, and they won't export the raw materials which forces companies to bring their processing operations into china.The US has plenty of rare earths, they just always come up with thorium, which regulators regard as a nuclear waste that must be disposed of at exorbitant cost to the mine operators.

LatteLazy Jan 12, 2023 View on HN

"Rare" earth metals are actually not that rare.The reason we (in the west) don't mine much is that they are very dirty to refine. We don't want pools of toxic waste left over from refining all over the place but China etc will tolerate those.Given the ore itself is (ironically) quite common, all the mining happens where the refining happens because why would you bother shipping tonnes of ore there when is so common.

pjc50 Apr 7, 2021 View on HN

Regular reminder that rare earths aren't especially rare, just .. diluted: https://www.intheblack.com/articles/2019/08/01/extracting-tr...

CSMastermind Nov 10, 2023 View on HN

My understanding is that these rare-earths are not actually rare - what's rare is:1. A country that will let you mine them2. Refinery capacityRight now I believe the only refineries are in Australia and China but for obvious reasons the US is quickly trying to figure out how to build on here along with semi conductor fabs.

curt Aug 6, 2011 View on HN

Rare Earths are deposits of exotic minerals used in nearly every advanced technology today (wind mills to MRI's). California used to produce the entire world supply until China undercut the price. As demand boomed (prices going way up) and China started using them as a trade weapon so companies started looking for sources in more stable countries.

ngcc_hk Nov 23, 2018 View on HN

“They require substantial quantities of rare earth metals, however, which are expensive and are mostly mined in just one country – China – which has led to worries over security of supply.“