Modern UI Criticism

The cluster discusses the decline in usability and discoverability of modern user interfaces compared to the intuitive, learnable designs of the 80s and 90s, criticizing trends like flattening, hamburger menus, hidden features, and gesture-based interactions.

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Sample Comments

behnamoh Oct 25, 2021 View on HN

Discussing UI is important too, esp. when it changes in a way that wastes users brain power.

AnIdiotOnTheNet Apr 22, 2020 View on HN

It was functional and clear, unlike modern "hide everything" UIs?

jmount Oct 3, 2025 View on HN

It won't keep. The UI hides so much behind modals, hamburgers, indescribable gestures (swipe, press, hard press, hold, corners). A user interface used to be a describable map from desired actions to low-state inputs (press this key, click on this image ...). Now it is just a state filled soup.

accrual Oct 22, 2024 View on HN

I wonder if the model has difficulties for the same reason some people do - UI affordability has gone down with the flattening, hover-to-see scrollbar, hamburger-menu-ization of UIs.I'd like to see a model trained on a Windows 95/NT style UI - would it have an easier time with each UI element having clearly defined edges, clearly defined click and dragability, unified design language, etc.?

swiley Aug 28, 2020 View on HN

GUIs used to be discoverable and intuitive. Now they make bash and git look user friendly.

noodles_nomore May 29, 2023 View on HN

In the 90s people worked really hard to draft up universal standards of what makes UI usable and intuitive. Most of it tends to be ignored nowadays. Try teaching an old person how to use a smart phone some time. Just some bullet points:* Apps feel generally disorganized. Buttons are unlabled. Many things are hidden somewhere between layers of unlabled buttons. In the past you could count on the menu bar giving you quick access to anything.* Lack of functionality / composability. Avoid

richardfey Nov 29, 2022 View on HN

Aww..how cute, when user interfaces were still designed for the users!

richcollins Jan 8, 2011 View on HN

The fact that people are "used to it" doesn't make it the best UI choice.

bazoom42 May 27, 2025 View on HN

The best UI is the UI the users are already familiar with.

RodgerTheGreat Apr 10, 2024 View on HN

The UIs of the 80s and 90s were designed to be learned, and carefully refined through focus testing. These UIs used consistent visual affordances, and contained contextual help. Constraints on memory, resolution, and color depth discouraged the inclusion of visual elements that did not contribute directly to usability and functionality.The UIs of today are largely designed by people who have experienced GUIs for their entire lives, and assume that everyone is already familiar with conv