Election Fraud Claims
The cluster centers on debates about whether the 2020 US presidential election was stolen or fraudulent, including claims of rigging, lack of evidence, historical comparisons to Democratic challenges in past elections, and accusations of both-sidesism.
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I see you've been getting downvoted but no one is replying with why you might be wrong. From the outside-in (I don't live in the US either) what you've written certainly seems to be the case.You've literally got republican candidates (I think actually voted in now) saying unless they win the election was false/stolen. There is something very wrong with that.
Why is it wrong to allege that the election is stolen or fraudulent? The Democrats have done that repeatedly - 2000 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore), 2004, and 2016 (https://www.allsides.com/blog/past-electoral-college-vot
A very important thing to remember - The only thing that can "call into question the legitimacy of the election" is evidence of wrongdoing. None has surfaced.If someone tries to tell you otherwise, demand evidence. And no, Twitter and Facebook conspiracy theories are NOT evidence.BTW "both candidates" have NOT declared victory. Only Trump has.
Potentially rigged elections. Now that's new.
you have a 5 year old precision you're comparing to an apple that came out yesterday. tell me, was the election stolen?
It's amazing how people can mock the idea of subverting elections as long as it's not their candidate who lost. Many similar concerns were raised during the election by people who hold very different political views than most HN readers, and yet these concerns were written off and publicly mocked. Now the shoe is on the other foot but nobody is willing to point out the partisan hypocrisy.And yes, throwaway account because HN tends to get very uncivil about this subject.
More rogue than ignoring the results of a presidential election?
That's not entirely true. President Elect Trump himself spent the greater part of a month prior to the election claiming repeatedly that the election was "absolutely" rigged and, if you remember, predicated his unconditional acceptance of the results on his victory. People of a conspiratorial bent were already primed by his muddying of the waters so it shouldn't be a surprise that his own upset victory would be met with challenge.Not to mention that this entire election
Don't be ridiculous. No other president has ever tried to overturn the results of an election like Trump. You're attempting to make a blatantly false equivalency. That's textbook "bothsidesism". If you're "morally opposed to everything this President has done", then why do you "not care if Trump wins or loses"?You've also offered absolutely no proof of your unfounded claims that "it seems unquestionable that election laws were broken
False equivalence. She literally said “this is not to challenge the result of the election. George Bush won the election, and that is not in dispute”Further, her reason for doing this was to bring attention to actual voter disenfranchisement [1]. Comparing this to perpetuating obviously fabricated fraud claims with the sole intent of overturning the election is nothing short of absurd.[1] <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ohio-s-voter-purges-were-uphel