Privacy vs Surveillance Debate

Comments debate the 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' argument, opposing government surveillance, backdoors, and privacy invasions justified for catching criminals, while emphasizing risks of abuse and the need for strong privacy rights.

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shaneprrlt Oct 4, 2019 View on HN

I always recall that statement Eric Schmidt once made about if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear. It's not about fear of having my messages read, it's that you shouldn't have the right to read them. I guess at the end of the day, regardless of anyone else's behavior, I don't want my private communications being readable by outside parties. Should everyone be forced to wear a microphone and video camera so their private face-to-face communic

LordShredda Oct 28, 2023 View on HN

This is why "Nothing to hide, nothing to fear" is such a bad excuse for the invasion of privacy everyone is tolerating. British law enforcement is targeting journalists and whistleblowers, not actual criminals.

ggggtez Mar 13, 2017 View on HN

Spoken like a true non American. It's not like people don't think it's possible for criminals to do this. The issue is that they don't expect the government to be doing it to their own citizens. It's a legal and moral issue, not one of technological capabilities.

julienreszka Jun 25, 2019 View on HN

We all knew this was going to happen/is happening.'I have nothing to hide from the government' yeah what about the mafia, criminals and such that could/will access the data?https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/25/nsa-att-intercept-surveill...

activiation Jun 28, 2023 View on HN

Just ban privacy, because some criminals benefit from it ...

bloated5048 Sep 2, 2024 View on HN

This really grinds my gears. Maybe instead do better job at catching criminals? Do better investigation?We ban privacy now, because criminals can hide. What's next? Ban sharp kitchen utensils because criminals can stab you with them?This is punishing ordinary people for some bad apples. I don't care how much you gonna preach me how secure your government backdoored messaging app is. I don't want my conversations to be leaked. I may be saying some embarrassing things to someo

rhwHRW Aug 31, 2022 View on HN

don't share info, it might sound good now (stopping terror attacks etc) but it will snowball into oppressive governments tracking down political 'criminals'. the police will have to find another way to catch terroists.

mtgx Jun 27, 2020 View on HN

you should not be. the us gov has plenty of ways to catch bad people. they don't need this.

captainmuon Oct 29, 2018 View on HN

I've posted this recently before: I believe that your gear should be "loyal" to you, and do whatever you want, without spying on you or betraying you. In my opinion, this should be a basic right.You might counter: yes but why shouldn't we add this, if we can easily stop people from counterfeiting money, leaking documents, flying drones in restricted areas and so on. It's so convenient that we can stop this with a bit of technology. We'll, it would b

darkstar999 Jul 7, 2015 View on HN

Irrelevant - law enforcement wants a backdoor into everything.