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E2E Encryption in Messaging

The cluster discusses the end-to-end encryption status and security of messaging apps like Signal, Telegram, and WhatsApp, including debates on true privacy, trust in platforms, and recommendations for secure alternatives.

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Phrodo_00 • Oct 12, 2023 • View on HN

You could let users use end to end encrypted protocols for it (like signal, telegram or supposedly whatsapp)

rnhmjoj • May 5, 2016 • View on HN

It's possible because chats are not end-to-end encrypted.

05 • May 1, 2018 • View on HN

Yeah, use a messenger with E2E off by default, no multi-device E2E sync and questionable crypto..

inter_netuser • Apr 16, 2022 • View on HN

why anyways?don't they say the chat is end to end encrypted?

jvanderbot • Jul 28, 2021 • View on HN

Sounds like we need a more secure messenger app?

jstanley • Jun 28, 2019 • View on HN

Because you wouldn't be free to speak encrypted messages?

drstrangevibes • Apr 23, 2012 • View on HN

maybe they are just keeping their communication private by using encryption.

om154 • Nov 9, 2023 • View on HN

Telegram at least offers end-to-end encrypted “Secret Chats”

antonzabirko • Nov 12, 2021 • View on HN

Use encrypted messaging apps so that they can't be scanned.

EGreg • Jun 7, 2022 • View on HN

How is it worse? Besides chats beung unencrypted by default