Meat Subsidies and Pricing

The cluster discusses how government subsidies artificially lower meat prices, arguing for their removal to reflect true production costs, environmental impacts, and ethical concerns, which would reduce consumption and promote alternatives.

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meko β€’ Jun 14, 2018 β€’ View on HN

we should be discussing ending meat subsidies. I think people would not consume so much of it if steak was $30/lb. There are cheaper, healthier ways to get protein and b12.

mrarjen β€’ Dec 15, 2017 β€’ View on HN

If it's more expensive the less eco friendly ways of making meat will be consumed instead.

justincormack β€’ Sep 1, 2012 β€’ View on HN

Meat is less efficient but only by a factor of 10 or so. Unless food costs as a proportion of income go up a huge amount it is unlikely people will not be able to afford meat. It may well become less popular. Even well cared for animals are not that much more expensive.

cute_boi β€’ Jun 26, 2024 β€’ View on HN

Meat should always be more expensive than vegetables due to inefficiencies. But due to subsidies it isn't.

frakrx β€’ Dec 26, 2023 β€’ View on HN

Less meat consumption should lead to more production and decrease in price of of other types food. Also despite all the suffering in the world people still care very much about the wellbeign of dogs and cats. If anything with inflation and more and more wars around the globe the world needs cheaper food now more than ever.

blacksmith_tb β€’ Jun 21, 2016 β€’ View on HN

Ground chuck roast is heavily subsidized; it would be surprising if any fake meat product could actually rival the energy and water costs needed to raise and process beef. So one solution would be to price both more fairly, in which case lots of consumers might be happier to choose the vegan option.

keymone β€’ May 26, 2019 β€’ View on HN

There is not enough land to produce equal amount of meat at the same price point. There is plenty land to produce enough more expensive meat. Which also reduces meat consumption. It’s a win all around.

nosianu β€’ Mar 24, 2023 β€’ View on HN

Looking at the conditions that "beef" is raised in - feedlots specifically - the price for beef is way too low. Of course it should be raised by laws requiring better living conditions for the animals, not by the operations staying the same but making more profit. Same for all kinds of meat really. I happily eat meat, and of the more pricey variety and not the cheapest I can get, but I'm willing to pay the price (and I'm not earning much) if the animals are treated better.

goodpoint β€’ Jan 19, 2023 β€’ View on HN

No, you are forgetting that meat is heavily subsidized while low-impact food is not.

blacksmythe β€’ Apr 22, 2012 β€’ View on HN

Almost certainly true about animal-friendlier meat. However, many people won't eat animal meat on moral principals, and quite likely would be willing to pay twice as much for non-animal meat. (Basically all they have to do to make it affordable is eat half the portion size of traditional carnivore consumers).