Menial Jobs Value

The cluster debates the necessity, value, and societal importance of low-wage, menial, or blue-collar jobs like cleaning, data labeling, or manual labor, distinguishing them from 'bullshit jobs' and defending their role despite low status or pay.

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Sample Comments

globular-toast Dec 29, 2021 View on HN

Those are menial jobs, not bullshit jobs.

batch12 Jul 20, 2024 View on HN

There are other jobs that don't require being gross.

staplers Jan 24, 2020 View on HN

You just explained like 90% of working class jobs.

Jagat Aug 6, 2019 View on HN

"Do they realize they are exchanging temporary wages for eternal futility?" Yes they do.and this isn't wrong either"If you could be pulling a rickshaw or labeling data in an air-conditioned internet café, the latter is a better job."

reaperducer Mar 27, 2025 View on HN

Unless you're in emergency services, your job is a make work job, too.

Angostura Jun 22, 2018 View on HN

.... those jobs may not seem very valuable to you, but they are valuable to the people doing them, and possibly more broadly, to society.

6510 Aug 11, 2021 View on HN

Its funny how many people inflate their importance and think their occupation makes the world go round. In reality it takes a lot of people to keep everything in working order. Specially low wage labor is of disproportional importance. Work done by people who are often (or by definition) financially fragile. A good number of these (and slightly above) involve manual work in already harsh (if not hot) environment. When things get unbearable these people will look at their cards, fold and run away

BerislavLopac Feb 8, 2024 View on HN

You can't -- but that's not menial work.

zasz Oct 6, 2010 View on HN

Do you think all the people working your cash registers or mopping your floors can seriously be passionate about their work? How about driving cabs, or being a receptionist, or working at a call center? These are universally shitty jobs but very necessary. If we want everyone to have a "career" we should think about how we can get rid of these jobs.

dopamean Oct 10, 2017 View on HN

People take all sorts of jobs because they pay better than others. I don't think there's anything sad about that.