COVID Lockdown Effectiveness
The cluster debates the success of strict lockdowns and virus elimination strategies in countries like New Zealand, Australia, Taiwan, South Korea, and Vietnam compared to partial measures in the US and Europe.
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Because the first lockdowns in many places were half-assed?We did lockdown properly in NZ, and now, we're basically back to normal (with the exception of international travel).And no, it isn't because we're a small island (though that helped). South Korea and Vietnam are also success stories.
It's not clear that it is possible. The obvious point of comparison is China, which has continually had to fight off new waves of infections despite strong lockdowns and strong border restrictions. (A lockdown started just 2 weeks ago covering about as many people as the total population of Australia.)
New Zealand was exceptionally successful, and other areas which tried that strategy weren't so lucky. Some parts of Australia were shut down for something like 9 of the past 18 months. (Sydney is under lockdown orders today!) And I think it's hard to find fault with the strength of lockdowns in France, Spain, or Italy - their lockdowns just didn't fully eliminate transition, so we put them in the "weak lockdown" bucket, even though as a matter of government policy they w
If you ignore places like Australia that locked down hard and early. Melbourne experienced a near total 3 month lockdown for example. The result? Pretty much zero local cases now and life back to normal, sans international travel.
You could say that NZ, australia and china did something very different from the partial lockdowns in the west. they decided to eradicate the virus, while that was never the goal in europe/us
Taiwan, South Korea and New Zealand have all had effective responses to the pandemic that haven't required lockdowns. It's just that the West doesnt believe in survival masks and didn't make them, and can't figure out how to find and isolate cases.
>The only place still with national lockdowns are NZ and Australia because they were able to contain and control the virus earlier on.You literally supported lockdown measure with this comment. I'm not sure why you're backtracking now.You might wanna backtrack on the whole AUS NZ thing since they've essentially become authoritarian police states over the COVID cases everyone told them they would get hit with. Turns out it had nothing to do with their measures and everythi
It's not really cool to make nationalistic attacks like this here.FWIW I'm from Australia (Melbourne), which mostly eradicated the virus last May, then had a resurgence in Jun-Aug, and it took hard lockdown from early August to November to get the outbreak fully under control - effectively four months of pretty strict lockdown. We managed to beat it but it was hugely costly.Australia, like NZ, is an island with a relatively (compared to US and Europe) small, compliant population,
Yes. Look at Australia and New Zealand, who implemented incredibly strict lockdowns and enforced then actively.Those countries got to party together for new year's because they were both at zero cases.
Both New Zealand and Australia performed strict lockdowns. The US/Europe is unlikely to be able to achieve the same level of compliance needed to make those successful.