P-Value Misinterpretation
Comments focus on common misunderstandings of p-values and statistical significance, such as confusing the probability of no real effect with the probability of observing the data under the null hypothesis, and critiques of the arbitrary 0.05 threshold.
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The wrong statement is saying P(no real effect) The correct statement is saying P(saw these results | no real effect) Consider two extremes, for the same 5% threshold:1) All of their ideas for experiments are idiotic. Every single experiment is for something that simply would never work in real life. 5% of those experiments pass the threshold and 0% of them are valid ideas.2) All of their ideas are brilliant. Every single experiment is for something that is a perfect wa
Sounds like the old p=0.05 problem!
You're making the same mistake in reverse. The p-value is not a marker of correctness, but of confidence. If something doesn't reach the p-value cutoff, that doesn't mean that the effect doesn't exist, just that it didn't meet the confidence level. A paper could be entirely correct in its hypothesis, yet not meet the confidence level in its experimentation.
Plaster this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-value
You may be referring to p-values, and the arbitrary 0.05 threshold but in that case, the connection is risky at best and wrong in general (common misinterpretation of p-value as probability of alternative being false)
Yes isn't p usually supposed to be less than 0.05 for the it to usefull?
Whatβs wrong with statistical significance?
Statistical significance is not a bright-line test. The p value reported is the probability that the observed effects occur if there are actually no effects. Notably, p is always greater than zero.In general, when less data is available, larger p values are considered more interesting, while when more data is available, p must be smaller to be interesting. In particle physics, p p
That's a whole thing in statistics:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_of_a_test
Related: "The ASA Statement on p-Values: Context, Process, and Purpose"- https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00031305.2016.1...- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30324223