Genealogy and Pedigree Collapse

Discussions focus on how family trees overlap due to pedigree collapse, resulting in shared distant ancestors, common relatedness like sixth cousins, and exponential ancestor counts exceeding historical populations, with references to DNA tests and historical lineages.

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irrational Oct 21, 2022 View on HN

You should read up on family trees. This is an extremely well known thing and you can find a lot of articles that answer this question.

jankotek Jan 4, 2018 View on HN

No, your ancestors were distant relatives, 2nd cousins etc...

denton-scratch Apr 22, 2023 View on HN

Stop press: everyone may descend from a single ancestor!

asdfman123 Jul 7, 2020 View on HN

Just to get pedantic, aren't we all relatives if you go back 1000+ years?

srcreigh Jan 14, 2022 View on HN

Does ancestry.com have this info?

ekm2 May 8, 2013 View on HN

All human beings are related if you go back a sufficient number of years.

m463 Jan 8, 2020 View on HN

There's evidence my ancestors have not. sigh.

Projectiboga Sep 5, 2023 View on HN

We are all basically sixth cousins from what I've seen written.

lolc Oct 25, 2020 View on HN

Many of the people reading this thread are descendants of at least one Neanderthal. Family trees aren't trees, they're DAG.

improbable22 Jan 4, 2018 View on HN

This 3% or whatever from 0.5^n is a lower bound. To get close to it, all your other relatives would need to come from completely somewhere else. But in reality, many of your other ancestors were probably related to him, because they had lived in his valley since they invented farming, or whatever. So you probably have some more of his genes from several great, great, great grandmothers who were related to him.