US Role in ISIS Creation

The cluster focuses on debates about whether US foreign policy, including the Iraq invasion, arming mujahideen, and support for Syrian rebels, directly contributed to the rise of ISIS and groups like al-Qaeda. Commenters argue over blame, contrasting US actions with roles of regional actors like Saudi Arabia, Russia, and local extremists.

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vbezhenar Jun 22, 2018 View on HN

I don't know whether it's the truth, but in my country it's universally accepted opinion among many people that most middle-east terrorists are created and financed by the US. Given the fact that western forces utterly failed to fight ISIS until Russia was involved and then tried to oppose Russia as much as possible (yet Russia still crushed ISIS), it doesn't look very unlikely for me. So one possible way for the world is to have reduced terrorism which might help even the or

gryzzly Mar 29, 2024 View on HN

what about ISIS? or al-Qaeda? you like that type resistance i understand.

intopieces Nov 30, 2015 View on HN

The mistake you're making in your analogy is comparing a group of people to a single person. ISIS is not one united front, and most of the people who actually fight -- not the leaders making videos, but the people doing the killing -- do so for much less grandiose reasons.Casting the rise of ISIS as a black-and-white, good-vs.-evil struggle allows some very clever politicians to have their way: torture some folks, spy on citizens. But if we look deeper at the situation, we'll

threeseed Feb 19, 2017 View on HN

You seem to be largely ignorant.Iraq just today sent their troops in the biggest offensive against ISIS in Mosul. Somalia and Sudan have been working extensively with the US on anti-terrorism efforts in their countries. Iran is backing 100K+ Sunnis who are fighting the largely Shiite ISIS.And of course in Somalia and Yemen you are dealing with Al-Shabab who are unaffiliated with ISIS. Just like you have groups in Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand who have their own Al-Qaeda offshoots.What t

arca_vorago Jul 15, 2015 View on HN

Obviously his comment was not very well thought out or supported by much of anything, and so warranted criticism, but lets not be blind to the substance behind his sentiment.The IRA and UVF, Hezbollah etc all have something in common. That is that they are responses to actions primarily done by imperialistic actions of other countries (the UVF was the counter to the IRA which was a response to British actions, while Hezbollah was largely a response to Israel's invasion of Beruit in 82 an

nyolfen Jul 8, 2017 View on HN

so why are you blaming the US specifically and not any of the disparate partisan groups that directly built ISIS? the islamist militants from MENA, the saudis funding wahhabist madrassas abroad, the gulf monarchies giving arms and funding, the former iraqi ba'athists that make up its officer corps... and instead you choose an entity directly fighting ISIS? why is that? almost as if you have ideological blinders on...

alrs Sep 13, 2017 View on HN

It isn't new news. https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/09/19/how-the-us-helped-cr...

skc Sep 16, 2015 View on HN

You're being downvoted for hyperbole, but there is some truth in what you are saying. This is exactly the type of scenario that groups like ISIS take advantage of, hence their unusually high number of western educated recruits.

Lennie Jun 1, 2018 View on HN

You do realize that the actions of the US ended up creating both Al Qaeda and ISIS, right ?

nimbius Sep 18, 2020 View on HN

Friendly reminder: the US basically created ISIS through it's hamfisted invasion of Iraq. Cheerleading tbis sort of effort is like congratulating a child when they decide to eat their peas.