Corporate Amorality Debate

This cluster centers on debates about whether companies and large corporations are inherently amoral entities driven by profit, lacking true morals, or if morality stems from individuals within them.

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tharne Jan 8, 2021 View on HN

Companies don't have morals, they have interests. You're just being realistic.

hcarvalhoalves Nov 2, 2019 View on HN

It’s a huge corporation, and huge corporations are morally challenged.

oblio Sep 17, 2024 View on HN

He probably meant amoral. Companies are constructs, machines, outside of morality. They just do. Their leaders can be moral or not.

ssss11 Oct 15, 2022 View on HN

Individuals need better morals imo. The corporate entries of this works however do everything for the benefit of the share holder which isn’t always the right moral thing.

overgard Mar 8, 2024 View on HN

Every large company is, by nature, amoral. All the pro-social stances or whatever are generally just window dressing and PR. Individuals can be moral, but for-profit corporations past a certain size just are too abstract of an entity with too many people of competing interests to ascribe morality to. We shouldn't care about intentions, just whether they're doing something we agree with or not.

throw_m239339 Apr 19, 2020 View on HN

Aren't companies "moral entities" by definition?

asg Feb 22, 2013 View on HN

That is depressing. Companies are nothing but collection of human beings. One would hope that most humans are not happy to go about their lives lying to other humans on a regular basis.So yes, companies don't have a moral point of view. But human beings do, the humans who work for and run these companies. And while philosophers have opined extensively about the relativity of morals, I'd hope that there are some values that an overwhelming majority of human kind subscribes to.

cqqxo4zV46cp Apr 25, 2024 View on HN

If you’re going to bank on this view enough to harp on about “amoral companies” in your HN bio, I implore you to consider a more nuanced view. I am a company director. If I committed a “moral” act in this capacity, your absolutist claim is entirely false.

robert_foss Jan 31, 2017 View on HN

No company can be expected to behave morally? Is that what you are arguing?

WillPostForFood Apr 11, 2018 View on HN

Companies are inherently non moral, non sentient, legal constructs. Any sense of morality comes from the people in the company, and they can be highly moral, immoral, or anything in between.