American Dream Delusion

The cluster centers on the idea that Americans, especially the poor and middle class, view themselves as 'temporarily embarrassed millionaires,' fueling resistance to socialism and justification of inequality despite low social mobility.

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Sample Comments

nelox Feb 1, 2025 View on HN

It’s not called the American Dream for nothing

pcmaffey Oct 18, 2016 View on HN

It's called the American dream for a reason.

misiogames Nov 7, 2017 View on HN

isn't that the way the "American dream" works?

esalman Oct 13, 2022 View on HN

Classic American mentality of conflating basic human rights with luxury.

gabeh Jul 18, 2011 View on HN

"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." --Steinbeck

granos Oct 9, 2015 View on HN

Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires. - John Steinbeck (disputed)Lots of otherwise reasonable people are willing to delude themselves for a shot at a windfall.

Warwolt Oct 19, 2023 View on HN

This just strikes me as something Americans tell themselves to justify their living situation

pm90 Apr 4, 2023 View on HN

I’ve heard it described as “Americans think of themselves as temporary poor future billionaires”. Not all Americans, but this is why you see so many simping for the rich even when its not in their own interests.

ixtli Apr 23, 2019 View on HN

My intuition about this as someone who grew up in America and has traveled internationally quite a bit is that nowhere else on earth are the middle classes so convinced that one day they will be "millionaires" than here. This causes them to act against their own best interests.(This was observed by Engels long ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consciousness )

thefz Nov 29, 2023 View on HN

Let the poor American rest, they still think more money == best.