Canadian Tech Salaries
The cluster focuses on comparisons between lower tech salaries in Canadian cities like Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal versus higher US salaries in hubs like Seattle and Silicon Valley, discussing brain drain, high housing costs, and reasons developers move south.
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I'd love it so much if Canada had comparable salaries. I'd move back for sure, at least if it came 10% within Seattle and SV.But, I'm not sure it's possible for companies to do so.I mean, first of all, in the US, outside of a few cities like NY, SV, Seattle, Bellevue, you start to see lower pay which gets closer to Canadian pay.Appart from that, Canada just doesn't have the same market. That's the biggest difference. Most startup capitalize on the US market
Is the cost of living around most software companies in Canada so much less than the US?
You can't possibly expect to compete with Switzerland and the US on technology when salaries are two to three times lower in Canada and housing costs like Vancouver and Toronto exist. Immigrants might be willing to work for less but I doubt Canadians will especially when they can drive a few hours south and make two, there, or more times the salary.
"Canadian salaries are a joke"Yup.It's due to a lot of reasons, but that will change if the talent is there.It's particularly pernicious in Van where the cost of living is crazy, less so in Toronto.I live in Montreal - and my flat would be 6500/month in San Francisco. It's really nice. The culture is great. Cost of living is peanuts. There are smart people, and 10x more cute girls than SF.If you grew up in the cold and can hack that, then it's in
As a Canadian, one thing that I don't understand is why companies don't move to Canada. I feel like working in the states, I've priced myself out of the Canadian market (since salaries in Canada for engineers seem to be about 60-70% of what they are in the US), but I can't imagine that Vancouver or Toronto would be that hard to build an office out of. Yet for the most part, companies don't. From my understanding, there would be a lot of benefits to having Canadian offices - easy to travel to the
As a Canadian who moved away, I must warn you that Canada has a form of dutch disease. Resource extraction investments have a much better risk/return ratio, so the pay doesn't even approach US levels. Thus software doesn't approach the levels of investment you have in the USA. And you thought SF was bad, wait until you see what has gone wrong with the housing markets in Toronto and Vancouver.I liked Canada and it's sad that I have to live away from my family, but I wou
I benefited from a similar program a year ago, and although I have no regret, I feel that some honesty might help other.First and foremost, the Canadian tech scene is nothing like the US, Europe, or Asia where I'm coming from. Tech jobs are rare. The flagship tech employer is Shopify and they just recently downsized.Second, salaries are garbage, especially for migrants. There is a term for this situation called "Canadian Experience": employers claim that because one does not
As a recent Waterloo grad, this definitely rings true with me.I lived in Vancouver for most of my life, and love the city. I'd love nothing more than to live and work here all my life, but I'm really having trouble justifying not crossing the border and more than doubling my salary like most of my friends have done.From my experience job searching so far, even without mentioning salary, the sheer number of interesting jobs is just sorely lacking, even when comparing to other Cana
Honestly fuck Canadian tech companies. The pay is literally half or even a third of what we can earn in the states. The rise of remote work has been such an amazing development for Canadian software developer. Really there isnβt much point in living in a Canadian tech city like Vancouver or Toronto since it makes no sense to work for a Canadian company anymore. Even taking a remote job at any run of the mill non flashy firm in the states will pay more than anyone pays in Canada, so may as well j
I think you're severely underselling the Canadian market as someone else in Canada.I really like the quality of life that Vancouver provides, the pay is also pretty good (has improved a lot in the last ~2y), I got multiple offers as of two months ago in the 200-280k CAD TC which really isn't bad for Vancouver. Those offers were by companies with offices in Vancouver.Nature, health care, people are polite, not too much crazy politics, lot's of opportunities, good food.. I enj