Defund the Police Debate

"Defund the police" includes the feds, just say that instead.

defund the police is a movement with that goal, no?

Sounds like a police department wants to be defunded. They forget who they work for.

The idea of "funding" is just a rough proxy for what people really want (or don't): more police presence. Garden-variety "defund the police" advocates think that, due to police violence, bias, and so on, the police should be a smaller part of how we address crime. The people in areas affected heavily by crime think that the police should be _more_ involved. That's the disagreement.

The police do not need billions of dollars. Defunding the police is a great idea. There are many more effective ways to spend this money. Police are used as a (poor) bandage for issues that stem from lack of funding in other areas, like healthcare, social work and housing.

FWIW, I fully agree.When I initially heard "Defund/decomission police", I thought it was utter insanity. Then (sadly, some time later) when I forced myself to read the policy recommendations, I 100% agreed - alter and reduce the scope of police, move the funding to methods that may provide better results, look at root causes rather than just reactive enforcement, engage with community in more productive and empathetic ways, demilitarize the police force, etc. So I'm 100% t

Conflating "police reform" and "defund the police" is disingenuous.

If most people realized that protesters mean "abolish" when they say "defund", the reaction would be a bit different (see https://newrepublic.com/article/158104/rush-redefine-defund-...).When most people hear "defund the police" they assume it means cutting police budgets, and perhaps also involves repurposing money for

You're mixing up defund with abolition.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defund_the_policehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_abolition_movement

Is the slogan "defund the police" helpful in this case?