China-US Brain Drain

Discussions center on Chinese students attending top US universities, the brain drain of talent from China to the US, low repatriation rates, espionage concerns, and efforts by China to attract talent back.

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netheril96 May 26, 2016 View on HN

Only a small fraction of the Chinese admitted into Harvard, MIT, Princeton and Stanford return after their education. Neither does most of Google and Facebook employees who are born in China. The brightest talents of China serve the United States mostly (even though the US places a lot of handicap on them, e.g. the cap on H1B). Can you now imagine why Chinese government is not incentivized?

snordgren Apr 19, 2023 View on HN

China definitely "leaks" a lot of talent to American companies - most AI papers that I've seen from respected Western universities include at least one Chinese name.One challenge for China has been the university enrollment rate. While in Western countries half of each cohort has been going to university for decades, China is not there yet. In 2019, just 17% of Chinese adults have degrees compared to 44% in the US.So the large Chinese population is offset by its relative lac

piskov Dec 16, 2025 View on HN

Seems like chicken and the egg problem:https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/discrimination-chine...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg78xng04xo<a href="https://www.insidehighered.com/news/admi

mrrrgn Jul 1, 2016 View on HN

Their point stands. The Chinese government is a bad actor with a history of tapping university students for industrial espionage. Their population also dwarfs ours which could justify some concern about American students being "crowded out."

userabchn Jan 25, 2024 View on HN

In the past few months I have talked (separately) to three Chinese students who were doing PhDs in different countries. I asked each what their plans were for the future, and was struck by how determined all three were to not return to China. This is obviously a biased sample, since they already chose to do their PhD outside China, but conditions in China, such as 996 culture, definitely seem to be pushing some talented young people away.

kiiski May 17, 2014 View on HN

Maybe "well educated, highly intelligent Chinese" are dime a dozen, so it doesn't matter if some of them work abroad.

devoply Dec 26, 2016 View on HN

The US steals talent, say Chinese graduate students. They steal the results of that stolen talent. You can justify anything if you put your mind to it.

Tinyyy Jul 8, 2020 View on HN

There is a growing number of Chinese students who graduate from top Chinese universities or return to work in China after their US education. The US may hold a dominant position right now, but that lead is fading and the unwelcoming attitude towards immigrants is driving the best and brightest back home. This is especially true in engineering (vs academia where US still has a huge advantage), where there has been an explosion in Chinese tech companies who pay salaries competent to US tech compan

em-bee Oct 25, 2023 View on HN

Why are they in US instead of Chinabecause the US still has the reputation of better higher education. but also, many of the chinese students will go back to china and bring their experience with them. this will benefit china, but also the experience of living in a foreign country will promote a better understanding between china and the US and create a better future for the world

airflow Mar 28, 2021 View on HN

You are right, but just consider where top students in top universities in China would like to stay. This record means that country is more attracting.