OpenAI Scarlett Voice Dispute

The cluster debates whether OpenAI violated Scarlett Johansson's right of publicity by using a soundalike voice for their AI 'Sky' after she declined, citing legal precedents like Midler v. Ford and Waits v. Frito-Lay on voice imitation in commercial use.

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omnicognate May 23, 2024 View on HN

Nobody said looking/sounding like someone else is "prosecutable", and this willfully obtuse reading is getting annoying.Many people here, including you, seem to be under the impression that a person who sounds like a celebrity can, because they are not that celebrity, do whatever they want with their voice regardless of whether or not they seem to be passing off as or profiting from the persona of that celebrity. This is not the case.When others point this out many people, a

__loam May 22, 2024 View on HN

It's not that simple. Actors have a right to protect the use of their likeness in commercial projects like ads, and using a "soundalike" is not sufficient to say that isn't what you were trying to do. The relevant case law is Waits vs. Frito Lay. The fact that OpenAI approached her about using her voice twice and that Sam Altman tweeted about a movie she starred in makes her case much stronger than if they had just used a similar voice actor.

gnicholas May 23, 2024 View on HN

It seems like the key difference is that the advertisements in those cases involved people who sounded like particular musical artists, singing songs that those artists were well-known for singing. If you hired the woman who voiced Sky to say lines that Scarlett had in some of her movies, that would be similar. The fact that this is a chatbot makes it somewhat of an echo of those cases, but it strikes me (a former lawyer) as being a bridge too far. After all, you have to balance Scarlett's

ai isn't imitating the source, it's working on copies. you need rights to use a photo of someone. why should it be different for their voice?

dotnet00 May 22, 2024 View on HN

I think the issue is intent. It's fine if two voices happen to be similar. But it becomes a problem if you're explicitly trying to mimic someone's likeness in a way that is not obviously fair use (eg parody). If they reached out to Johansson first and then explicitly attempted to mimic her despite her refusal, it might be a problem. If the other voice was chosen first, and had nothing to do with sounding the same as Johansson, they should be fine.

eschaton May 21, 2024 View on HN

Because she inherently owns the rights to her voice and they’re attempting to reproduce it without her permission. This has been litigated in multiple cases. If they had just wanted to be _reminiscent of_ “Her” they could have a different outcome than if they tried to get the original “Her” voice actress and then tried to reproduce her voice in her she said no.Intent matters a lot in a situation like this and OpenAI very clearly documented their intent for every me to point and laugh at. Even

simonsarris May 21, 2024 View on HN

This is known as personality rights or right to publicity. Impersonating someone famous (eg faking their likeness or voice for an ad) is often illegal.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_rights

andy_ppp Nov 2, 2023 View on HN

If someone impersonates Scarlett Johansson or sounds a lot like her naturally is it illegal to make money from this? Why does AI have less rights than humans here?

freejazz May 29, 2024 View on HN

> If guilty, will it be illegal for people sounding like famous people get voice work ?It continues to baffle me that people formulate this issue as it just being about the similar voices as opposed to OpenAI's efforts to capitalize on ScarJo's likeness by making explicit references to ScarJo and her work, in combination with using a similar voice.Obviously, it is not against the law to have a similar voice as someone. Obviously, it is against the law to capitalize upon anoth

soerxpso May 23, 2024 View on HN

It doesn't seem like you'd need "shenanigans" for this. Lots of voice actors are capable of doing voices that sound like other people, and some even have a natural voice that happens to sound very similar to a particular more noteworthy celebrity. AFAIU, the rights to your likeness only apply to your likeness, not to the likeness of someone else who happens to look or sound a lot like you.For a case that doesn't involve AI at all, consider situations where a vo