Police Unions Criticism
The cluster focuses on debates about police unions, highlighting their role in protecting misconduct, blocking reforms, and wielding excessive power, often contrasting them with other unions.
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The police don't have weak unions though. Evidence suggests otherwise, see my comment:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33991186#33992777
I don't think making police unions illegal is the solution, unions play an important role in preventing the employer from taking advantage of employees. What we need to do is limit the scope of unions. Unions making sure their members have decent pay, benefits, safe working conditions, etc - GREAT! Unions protecting corrupt, abusive, dangerous members from facing punishment - BAD! This is true for any profession.
Maybe it's because police unions form a sizable chunk of those unions...
Police unions are much worse than other public unions. If other public unions take illegal action, the police can arrest them. When the police union does something illegal, no one is going to do anything about it.
Maybe the police union is responsible.
Police unions don't prevent police from being held accountable. They don't have that authority. Police unions are another problem, and an important one, but we need the state to press charges and judges to sentence police who commit crimes at least as harshly as they would the rest of us. No union has the power to take a bad cop out of prison. The police didn't get this way on their own, so it's important that we aren't ignoring what's enabled them to continue like
Not really odd if you know about the power of the police unions.
We're in this situation because of police unions. Fuck any SWE union. It'll be full of xenophobic crackpots.
Police need unions too, for the same reasons everyone else does. Police deserve pay increases that keep pace with the rising cost of living, limits on how many hours or days they can be forced to work without rest, time off for training, sick time, family leave, workplace safety etc.The problem isn't that police have unions, it's that police are allowed to police themselves. If we take that ability away, police unions won't have any say in how officers are investigated or disci
Don't forget the police union.