Asian Admissions Discrimination
This cluster focuses on allegations of discrimination against high-achieving Asian American applicants in Ivy League university admissions, particularly Harvard, where they receive lower ratings despite superior test scores and extracurriculars to promote diversity. Debates include data from lawsuits, comparisons to historical Jewish quotas, and calls to end race-based preferences.
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Harvard and other Ivy League universities got caught discriminating against Asians in their admissions. How do you justify that as a good thing?
The problem for Harvard, and the reason this case [1] was brought in the first place is that the admissions staff were singling out Asian American students for exclusion. Despite having the highest test scores and extracurricular activities, Asian American students were given the lowest “personality” scores, making them the least likely to get in. This despite the fact “alumni interviewers (who, unlike admissions officers within Harvard, actually met individual applicants) gave Asian Americans p
Several admissions officers at Ivy league universities have admitted that because they get so many applications of similar-profile asian-americans (high grades, similar extracuriculars) they hold them to a "higher standard" than similarly-achieving non-asians. This is justified in the name of diversity.
Colleges still use race in admissions. They just obfuscate it slightly. For example, they preferentially admit people by zipcode, i.e. by the degree to which the neighborhood is non-white, non-Jewish, and non-Asian. They encourage applicants to write about their experiences with discrimination in their applicant letters. They also accept people scoring in the top percentage of grades at a school (which preferentially admits students from worse schools with lower standards i.e. students from blac
I'm suggesting the whole reason behind this "better admission system" is because they want to reduce the amount of Asians there. If you keep changing the rules for admission, you'll eventually find one which xyz undesired demographic can't compete in as well.It's not the first time they've been discriminated against.See : <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-15/harvard-admissions-documents-show-bias-applic
It’s bizarre that universities are banning caste discrimination while at the same time actively discriminating based on race. See recent Harvard lawsuit over Asian student admissions.
In order to determine whether a certain race is disfavored, you need to look at admissions data. The data for Harvard was staggering [1]. Non-ADLC Asian applicants in the 90th percentile were half as likely to be admitted than non-ADLC Black applicants in the 60th percentile and as equally likely as Black applicants in the 40th percentile.There are definitely valid arguments in favor of Affirmative action, but the notion that this doesn't amount to substantial racial discrimination is no
There is data (e.g. on Harvard university admissions) which shows that average SAT cut-off scores of admitted students are very different for various racial groups, which strongly hints at DEI based discrimination. I don't agree with that happening. I think people should be admitted/rejected based only on their ability, not partly based on whether they happen to fall in some group for which the quota has to be increased/decreased.
Discrimination in the pejorative sense generally includes an aspect of intent to act in a biased manner against a group. In this case the "discrimination" is incidental to the zero-sum nature of college admissions. So it's reasonable to say you're not discriminating against Asian students even though the outcome is the same.
Does not america discriminate asians and other races at university admissions?