COVID-19 Fatality Rates

Cluster focuses on debates distinguishing case fatality rate (CFR) from infection fatality rate (IFR) for COVID-19, arguing that the true IFR is under 1% due to many untested mild infections.

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jjjensen90 Jun 16, 2020 View on HN

There is no "death rate" metric. There is CFR (case fatality rate) and IFR (infection fatality rate). We know that there are many more infections than known cases, and serological studies point to total IFR 50 having increasing IFR every age bracket).

mewpmewp2 Jun 4, 2020 View on HN

Death rate is smaller than it was initially thought to be afaik. Under 1%.

nradov Nov 30, 2020 View on HN

You appear to have confused case fatality rate with infection fatality rate. There have been far more infections than confirmed cases because most never get tested or formally diagnosed. The actual IFR is under 1%.https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena...

nradov Jun 29, 2021 View on HN

You're confusing case fatality rate with infection fatality rate. Due to limited testing actual infection numbers are far higher than case numbers. The current best estimate of worldwide IFR is about 0.15%, with a wide variance between countries.https://doi.org/10.1111/eci.13554

jobigoud Apr 9, 2020 View on HN

IFR relates death to total infected, not total population.

jnbiche Feb 29, 2020 View on HN

You're comparing to different measurements. The ~2.0% figure for Covid-19 is the case fatality rate. Case fatality rate is number of deaths over number of people infected. Mortality rate is deaths over people at risk. A case fatality rate will always be higher (or equal, if everyone in an at risk population gets sick) than the mortality rate for same disease, often considerately higher depending on the disease's infection rate.

JSavageOne Jan 10, 2022 View on HN

You're referring to Case Fatality Rates.Case Fatality Rate = confirmed deaths / confirmed casesInfection Fatality Rate = total deaths / total infectionsTotal infections can only be estimated, and is much higher than confirmed cases because most people who get COVID-19 don't get tested for it (either because they're asymptomatic, unable to get tested, or don't see see a point since they already know they're sick). Thus the infection fatality rate is su

izend Apr 24, 2020 View on HN

Sorry IFR, infected fatality rate instead of case fatality rate (which is usually confirmed cases)

nodamage May 28, 2020 View on HN

Here is a WHO report from February saying the same thing:> Modeling is a helpful tool to try to account for missed cases, such as those that are mild cases potentially missed in current surveillance activities, and the time lag between onset and death. Using an estimated number of total infections, the Infection Fatality Ratio can be calculated. This represents the fraction of all infections (both diagnosed and undiagnosed) that result in death. Based on these available analyses, current I

mygo Mar 12, 2020 View on HN

They do not say death rate, but they do mention the case fatality rate, which is exactly what it sounds like, and as you have described.It’s the number of people who have died, of the known cases. Not everyone who is infected becomes a case, for one reason or another. Maybe their symptoms did not arouse enough concern, or maybe testing was refused to them since they didn’t fit an erroneously narrow list of testing requirements.Another thing to keep in mind is that people calculating the CF