Oil for Plastics Debate

The cluster discusses the non-fuel uses of oil, particularly for plastics, petrochemicals, and fertilizers, debating whether oil should be preserved for these materials instead of being burned for energy and transportation.

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JKCalhoun Jan 2, 2019 View on HN

Looks that way. Of course oil is used in the production of plastics and other useful materials as well.

themitigating Jan 30, 2023 View on HN

Why can't you just make plastic from the oil?

staticautomatic Feb 18, 2022 View on HN

Honest question: what about plastic and other non-fuel uses?

kayone Sep 23, 2021 View on HN

you do know that no one burns crude oil right? it's not an either burn it or make plastic out of it.

jeffreyrogers Apr 13, 2021 View on HN

Oil is used for a lot more than just cars: petrochemicals are a massive industry. Everything plastic is a petroleum product. Fertilizer is a natural gas product. About 1/3 of fossil fuel electricity generation is oil (other 2/3s are coal and natural gas). There is no way to stop producing oil while maintaining living standards in the near to moderate future.The turbine blades on wind farms are composites made from petroleum products. PV arrays are encapsulated in petroleum products.

rjsw Sep 29, 2015 View on HN

Oil is useful stuff, it is a waste to burn it. We will be able to make plastics for a lot longer if we can generate energy from something else.

kijin Jul 22, 2019 View on HN

Plastic products still contain most of the carbon that was originally in the oil, so I don't think it will be a problem for the climate even if we keep extracting oil and making plastic out of it. It will be just like making steel out of iron ore. We only need to stop burning that shit.

notyourwork Sep 12, 2017 View on HN

Here is something that can support OPs claim. Car's are still manufactured with oil, all the plastic, the paint, the tires that comprise the vehicle are dependent on oil. A car requires a lot more oil to produce than people understand so until focus on materials is shifted the car production alone is still a problem.

dehrmann Jul 14, 2019 View on HN

Plastics are a negligible use of oil (compared to transportation), oil can be synthesized, and I assume methane feedstock is adequate for making plastics.

Animats Nov 7, 2016 View on HN

It's not like we have to use all the oil in the planet this century. Saving oil for making plastics and other useful products makes sense.