Leaving Bad Managers
The cluster centers on the adage 'People don't leave companies, they leave managers,' with discussions sharing experiences of poor management leading to resignations, internal transfers, or being managed out, and advice for handling toxic manager situations.
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People don't leave companies, they leave managers.
You seem like a great manager/employee - sad that this is the situation you faced at this company
"People don't leave companies, they leave managers."
Sounds like you were doing the right thing for a company with terrible management.
Based on what you’ve said, you should be looking for an internal transfer yesterday.I’ve seen this before and virtually always one or more ICs get to be fall guy before a bad manager faces consequences.More generally, building relationships with other hiring managers at your company is generally a very good practice. This is best done by being a visible contributor to their team’s success. Usually that’s because your team is somewhere in their dependencies and you stand out as someone who
By a bad manager maybe, a good manager would figure that you're going to be unreliable moving forward and slowly manage you out of their team / key milestones until you eventually quit.
Turning this person into a manager is a major fail. Typically their only move is to quit, and everyone loses.
Unfortunately, management may view you as "not a team player" and pass you over for important projects if they think you may still leave.
Something I read on HN: People don't leave bad jobs, they leave bad managers. Good luck.
Haha, another Bay Area tech person here. A manager pulled that line on me, after he canned all my projects, and when I was dealing with COVID burnout and a bunch of family issues. I casually reached out to a few former managers, interviewed, and had offers in hand after two weeks.Meanwhile, the only reason this dude joined my (former) employer was that he got a 2X pay raise (they pay F/N/G levels but have a laughably low bar for managers). 3 months after my departure, my entire team