Nation-State Scale Debate

The cluster discusses the optimal size and structure of political entities, debating pros and cons of large nation-states, smaller city-states, federations like the US or EU, and possibilities like world government or resource-pooling among multiple nations.

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wlievens Nov 1, 2009 View on HN

The idea of countries is not taken far enough?

Jensson Nov 20, 2021 View on HN

Dunbar number works for countries as well. A hundred countries can talk to each other, trade and make agreements. Much more than that and it becomes a mess. So we get another layer of governance, called unions. You see USA being a union of 50 states, or EU being a union of 28 states. Expanding such a union to the whole world defeats the point.

allendoerfer Mar 4, 2018 View on HN

You can still have a federated world-government.

EMCymatics Nov 14, 2023 View on HN

Why does it have to be only one nation state? Couldn't it be multiple pooling resources?

tudborg Feb 8, 2014 View on HN

wouldn't fewer countries make government _more_ centralized? ;)

rayiner May 24, 2021 View on HN

Sounds like a step toward world government.

jessaustin Jan 4, 2019 View on HN

This sounds like an argument for smaller nations?

fulafel Nov 10, 2017 View on HN

Countries are known to do this on big issues, see eg. NATO.

iafrikan Feb 2, 2018 View on HN

Can't we break down governance to city states rather?

wav-part Oct 2, 2017 View on HN

As you say, the threat of invasion was the only reason people banded together physically. Now the the threat is gone, we should see more (as small as possible) city-states because everyone loves freedom and more control over their lives. There would not be a world government. Instead multilateralism is how the world would coordinate/cooperate.