Flexible Work Hours
This cluster centers on debates about flexible schedules, productivity during office hours versus total output, expectations of availability outside normal work times, and maintaining work-life boundaries in tech jobs.
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The simple fact is this: My company is not getting 8 hours of me a day. They just aren't. I'm not thinking about my job all day, I'm not working all day. About 3-4 hours of my day is spent dicking around online, eating lunch, having silly conversations on slack or texting my girlfriend.I would bet that this is the norm, not just in my job, but most jobs where it's not very simple to tell if someone's "working" or not (essentially all non-labor jobs).So th
For me, it's mainly a reasonable independent division of working hours.I have no problem working 14 hours into the night as long as I don't have to be there at 10 a.m. sharp every day and have to organize my entire life around my job. Sometimes you have other appointments during the day and I want to keep them without having to discuss it too much. Sometimes there are just shitty days when you want to finish work early. That should also be possible without being tied to a strict tim
Many times employees do not work 8 hours focused, sometimes they just do not come because of "sickness" just because they do not feel productive, or they come late-leave late occassionally because of a private need. Many employers understand that and tolerate that, as long as it is not impacting the general performance. So when company needs the employee occasionally out of office hours, the employee should do his/her best. If both parties are not abusing the situation everything
Do you want to ban e.g. properly compensated work outside of normal office hours?
I'm in the process of re-evaluating my approach to this.If you waste a significant fraction of my time in unproductive activity and environment, I'm increasingly less inclined to give you more of my time in terms of compensating by completing work at other times.Also, if you are paying my a "salary" but then expect me to clock in fixed time, that together with other demands causes me to exceed my ostensible commitment. E.g. I am there late in the evening or over the we
I co-run two tech companies and am reachable during office hours which are mostly spent at my desk, and when I am not working I am not reachable by work, and I trust my team.If you modify your preferred lifestyle in any way for work during personal time, you are still working.If a company wants you to be reachable 24/7 then they need to give you a pager and a salary based on a 168 hour work week, not a 40 hour work week.Just because everyone else lets themselves be exploited does n
I have 30 hours workweek and work 5x6, for the last 7 years. I also negotiated that I can leave at noon, and work the remaining hours, from where ever I am, when there is need (e.g. when I need to answer crucial things at evenings, weekends etc., which happens maybe once in a month). It is very good, I can spend more time with my son. I can go running when there is still sunlight outside. The problem is I could not go back to an 8 hour day.I don't abuse this deal: When I really want to g
When i've employed people, I tend to be focussed on their ability to get stuff done, and being responsive to requests, especially external users of the system. Hours spent at the desk is just a proxy for the above, and there are better ways of measuring it these days, so i'd think that your bosses will be cool with this unless that have a rather different mentality.I've worked with people with very strict working hours who will never respond to an email outside of those hours,
I realize it’s what you WANT to do in your “free” time, but don’t be that guy. There’s no way for you to do that sort of thing, and then not have it create pressure for everyone else. I had a boss who would be working basically all the time until 9-10pm every night, and was often on during the weekends. He would always say things like “it’s Friday, call it a day and enjoy your weekend” as he would continue working. How am I not supposed to feel guilty, even if it’s his choice? To me, he’s making
It’s perfectly reasonable to work at 12am, and there’s nothing in the parent comment to suggest that they’ve been working since 9am or so. Maybe they started working at 8pm. Modern work should be asynchronous. If your company cares about butt-in-seat time, it’s the one that’s wrong.