Concise Writing Debate

Discussions criticize verbose writing and advocate for clear, simple, concise prose, referencing Orwell's 'Politics and the English Language,' Paul Graham's 'Simply,' and tools like the Hemingway app, while debating brevity versus readability.

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greenie_beans Jan 3, 2022 View on HN

this is good advice for technical writing but not prose (faulkner would like a word with you! (see my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28383626))

szszrk Nov 26, 2020 View on HN

Your sentence is brief when no additional words can be removed. Being succinct is important because filler buries your talking points and bores readers into quitting.I find it harder to understand as well. I do get it but I see that a lot of my fellow non-native speakers will struggle with this kind of writing. Second sentence is way more complex then the whole original paragraph. "Succint", "filler", "buries", "bores into quitting" - whoah. Give

ajkjk Mar 1, 2023 View on HN

The florid writing is an elitist fad; you can express the same idea in much simpler language without losing any meaning.

Latty Apr 8, 2023 View on HN

Using common, well-understood terms is bad writing?

geor9e Feb 4, 2024 View on HN

"The less energy they expend on your prose, the more they’ll have left for your ideas." - https://paulgraham.com/simply.html

user_named Jun 4, 2023 View on HN

Your writing is way too verbose.

borncrusader Jun 2, 2018 View on HN

Another sentence I tried - "I wasn't that interested in working on my project today and hence I preferred to stay at home and watch Netflix in spite of the multitude of issues reported." is show as very hard! It makes me question if the original developer of this app has even read good well-known style guides for the English language.I'd advice you to read a good style manual to understand more about writing and how to use words. One doesn't have to forcibly introduce

52-6F-62 Jan 9, 2019 View on HN

Tangential to the main topic, but relevant to some of your remarks about English grammar.Have you ever read Politics and the English Language by George Orwell?Since covering it in High School, it's been my go to for all writing. Writing the way he describes will have everyone understand you. It doesn't need to be more complex than that. It might be argued that it's superior in most cases. (Sadly we never covered this in our general English classes. We only covered it

stctw Aug 1, 2019 View on HN

Rephrase, simplify, eliminate. For example, your comment could be written as:> Frequent readers here know I write verbosely. I communicate clearly, but few people finish reading my messages. Any advice?William Zinsser's book, On Writing Well, covers this topic. I recommend it.

galaxyLogic Jun 23, 2022 View on HN

Nice article but a bit tedious to read improper English. It is fun for paragraph or two but wears out rather quickly. If you got something important to say why not just say it as clearly as possible?