Open Source Patent Grants

Discussions center on whether open source licenses like GPL, MIT, BSD, and Apache provide explicit or implicit patent grants, and the implications for users, contributors, and potential infringement risks.

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trimistermota Jan 22, 2024 View on HN

GPL has implicit patent license.

flipside Jan 6, 2015 View on HN

What are the implications of using a patented feature of an open source project?

gojomo Aug 16, 2010 View on HN

Even without an explicit grant, distributing a product includes an implied license to use related patents. So even under an open source license with no specific patent clause, a company would have a hard time releasing something open source, then suing users for patent violations for using that same something. (They might still be able to sue for violating those same patents in other ways.)

JoeAltmaier Oct 24, 2014 View on HN

Its open-source. Maybe patents don't apply? They're not selling anything.

orblivion Dec 10, 2014 View on HN

So this is like the GPL for patents?

hsod Sep 23, 2017 View on HN

Is the MIT license considered to come with an implicit patent grant?

ekiru Aug 13, 2010 View on HN

The GPL version 3 includes a similar clause. You don't have to give up your patents. You just have to license them to anyone who has rights to use the code from a copyright perspective. If I understand it correctly, this gives the GPL sharper teeth, since someone who violates the GPL not only loses the distribution/derivative rights from the copyright license, but also the patent license.

ngrilly Feb 17, 2018 View on HN

Some lawyers think the language used in the MIT license implies a patent grant limited to the use of the licensed software. They think it would be difficult for the licensor to give a license on the software from one hand, and claim a patent infringement on the same software from the other hand, but as far as I know, this was never tested in court.

bryanlarsen Feb 23, 2012 View on HN

The BSD license does not contain a patent grant, so it's technically possible that you'll have to pay to use this software in the future even though it's under the BSD license. I'd really like to see a switch to the Apache license, which does contain a patent grant.

srgpqt Mar 15, 2021 View on HN

FOSS does not magically circumvent patents.