Roman Empire Continuity
Discussions center on the persistence of the Roman Empire beyond the fall of its Western half, emphasizing the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire's role, diversity, geography, and relation to Western civilization.
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Basically it's "roman empire vs not roman empire" :D
what about the Roman Empire? surely predates the middle ages
It's not clear to me whether your point is intended sarcastically, but for those who don't know, the Roman Empire was incredibly diverse throughout all of its history. Rome itself was a cosmopolitan urban center for centuries. Even after the split and collapse of the WRE, the east remained hugely diverse.
Do you mean the Roman Empire, rather than the HRE?
Looks like they are talking only about the Roman Empire in the west. The Empire in the east, which was bigger and wealthier, continued for another 1000 years or so [1][1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire
What's this about "Rome isnβt Western Europe"--have you consulted a map of the Roman empire?
Not the GP but I'll be more concrete in the other direction.The Roman Empire is located in Europe, is more recent than "time immemorial", and I'll claim that they didn't regard the various barbarians in Europe outside its sphere of influence as culturally unified with them.
they talk about the fall of roman empire, but the empire continued in constantinople
I don't think the genealogy is that convenient - the Eastern Roman Empire arguably has a stronger claim to being the successors of "The Greeks" that are often claimed to be the root of "Western" civilization than any place in Western Europe. Constantinople became the capital of the entire Roman Empire by 324 and the importance of the West (and Rome itself) for the empire dwindled already hundreds of years before the official "fall" of the Western Empire (which
I meant the ancient Roman Empire.