Ozempic Weight Loss Debate
The cluster discusses Ozempic (semaglutide) and similar GLP-1 drugs like Wegovy and tirzepatide for treating obesity, debating their effectiveness compared to diet/exercise, long-term sustainability, side effects, and whether they solve root causes or enable 'cheating'.
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It is no surprise given the issue at hand. I mean it is people who failed at dieting and managing weight using the methods shouted from rooftops for a century or more now. Doctor could say whatever and its clearly in one ear out the other. A lot of these patients are taking it as a silver bullet, a quick fix. If you have to actively manage your diet anyhow while on the drug, the whole issue around diets and exercise the drug attempts to surmount, one wonders at the purpose of the drug.
There are drugs that can counteract some of the negative effects of obesity, but none of them will bring your lab values in line anywhere near as much as losing the weight. I suspect that not being obese is essentially the miracle drug; Ozempic obviously helps people to lose weight.
> A small % of people are able to achieve significant weight loss with diet and exercise. And an even smaller % of that group are able to maintain it for the long term.Ozempic is only fighting symptoms of that, not the root of the problem which is the stigma around weightgain, being a big person, just fatphobia being extremly generalized and a lot of shame surrounding weight. While it's amazing for people who have medical conditions making them gain a lot of weight, just saying that t
How is a drug that reduces appetite and eating not solving the root cause of obesity?
Why is this at all a thing in 2024? We have Wegovy now. It is designed to solve this exact problem. Which it does, plus solves another few problems believed to be even more hopeless than obesity, such as drinking. People who still live in denial about it and keep pretending like it doesn't exist, do a great harm to humanity. Semaglutide is one of the very few genuinely good inventions of the last 10 years - one of the very few falling out of "a novel way to force people click on ads ha
These medications aim to reduce the addictiveness of foods. A very apt analogy is nicotine gum/patches. This is that, but for food (although early studies also show success for opioids and alcoholism).I feel like there is a lot of hypocrisy going on around this. People asking overweight/obese people "why not just eat less?!" and people responding "GLP-1 medications help me do just that," and the critics essentially saying "it is unfair fair that this drugs h
I suspect none of this stuff will matter in the near term. People will just take ozempic or whatever the best iteration is and be done with it.I’ve lost substantial weight (75lbs) the hard way multiple times, it’s doable but it sucks. If the drugs make it easy with seemingly no downside then why waste time with this other stuff.Use the drugs, lose the weight, then when thin add in an exercise regimen if you don’t have one.
Reading stories of people who lost a lot of weight with Ozempic and related drugs gives me hope...I don't consider it cheating or a short-cut. I look at it like treating a disease.
> I don’t know if it’s rooted in jealousy over access the drug (either via insurance or having a provider willing to prescribe) or whether it’s because people see those who take it for weight loss as “cheating”.No, it's because you can get the same result, plus other ancillary benefits, by simply stopping the behavior causing the issue.Imagine smokers rambling they can't stop smoking because bad tobacco put addicting chemicals in their cigs. Just put that shit out already, rig
This is a good, related opinion article: https://davidaaronovitch.substack.com/p/in-defence-of-ozempi... In defence of Ozempic - Why the weight-sadists hate the new drug