Sam Altman Firing

The cluster focuses on speculation about the reasons behind OpenAI's board firing Sam Altman, including disagreements on mission, management style, communication issues, and involvement of key figures like Ilya Sutskever and Mira Murati, along with the ensuing employee backlash and board reversal.

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dkrich Nov 20, 2023 View on HN

That’s how it appears currently but experience has taught me to be very careful about making snap judgments in these types of fast moving situations. Nobody seems to know yet why he was actually fired. The popular theory is that it was a disagreement about mission but something about that narrative just feels off. Also Nadella and Altman are both enjoying God-like reputations and the OpenAI board totally being dismissed as clueless and making a stupid, impulsive decision even though basic logic

Astraco Jan 12, 2024 View on HN

Oh, so this was why Sam Altman was fired?

scythe Nov 20, 2023 View on HN

There is no solid evidence that Setskever instigated the firing beyond speculation by friends who suggest that he had disagreements with Altman. It could just as well have been any of the other board members, or even a simple case of groupthink (the Asch conformity effect) run amok.Furthermore, it's consistent with all available information that they would prefer to continue without Sam, but they would rather have Sam than lose the company, and now that Microsoft has put its foot down, t

lacker Sep 25, 2024 View on HN

It's easy to have missed this part of the story in all the chaos, but from the NYTimes in March:Ms. Murati wrote a private memo to Mr. Altman raising questions about his management and also shared her concerns with the board. That move helped to propel the board’s decision to force him out.https://www.nytimes.com&#x

kmlevitt Nov 20, 2023 View on HN

The Fact still nobody knows why they did it is part of the problem now though. They have already clarified it was not for any financial reason, security reason, or privacy/safety reason, so that rules out all the important ones that spring to anyone’s minds. And they refuse to elaborate why in writing despite being asked to repeatedly.Any reason good enough to fire him is good enough to share with the interim CEO and the rest of the company, if not the entire world. If they can’t even do

mytydev Nov 20, 2023 View on HN

This article seems to be coming from a perspective that Microsoft somehow poached Sam and team. After looking at the events of the weekend, it's clear to me that the OpenAI board is solely responsible for the events that conspired. I imagine the timeline of events will be studied in the future as an example of how not to fire your CEO.

disgruntledphd2 Nov 20, 2023 View on HN

Yeah but this was caused by the OpenAI board when they fired him. I mean, what did they think was going to happen?Seems like a textbook case of letting the best be the enemy of the good.

progbits Sep 12, 2024 View on HN

They probably fired him because of the 90% stock drop, not because of any user complaints. There is no reason to believe the new leadership has different values, and people are right not to trust the company.

mikeryan May 29, 2024 View on HN

It’s not good form to bad mouth someone you’ve fired. They did, in fact, release a statement which aligns (in PR speak) with what Toner is claiming now.Mr. Altman’s departure follows a deliberative review process by the board, which concluded that he was not consistently candid in his communications with the board, hindering its ability to exercise its responsibilities. The board no longer has confidence in his ability to continue leading OpenAI.<a href="https://openai.com

mcv Nov 20, 2023 View on HN

That original announcement doesn't make it nearly as explicit as you're making it. It doesn't say what he lied about, and it doesn't say he's not on board with the mission.Sounds like firing was done to better serve the original mission, and is therefore probably a good thing. Though the way it's happening does come across as sloppy and panicky to me. Especially since they already replaced their first replacement CEO.Edit: turns out Wikipedia already has a pre