Democracy Definitions Debate

Comments debate the true nature of democracy, questioning whether Western countries like the US and Europe are genuine democracies or flawed oligarchies, and contrasting them with dictatorships and other regimes using indices and examples.

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sametmax Mar 15, 2017 View on HN

It has never been a democracy. But again the us and europe have no democracies either. Only a lot of freedom.

Daho0n Mar 3, 2021 View on HN

There are countries that are much closer to democracies than the US at least.

drewmcarthur Apr 19, 2024 View on HN

good point. why did all these countries become democracies in the first place? we should revert to autocracy /s

alphabettsy Jan 8, 2022 View on HN

Countries well known for their fair democracies right?

danaris Feb 28, 2023 View on HN

It's downvoted because it implies that this is generally true of Western democracies—that they're not actually any better than foreign dictatorships, as a category.

insidepgsmind Aug 27, 2020 View on HN

Worlds of difference between those countries and functioning democracies.

bigbaguette Sep 17, 2021 View on HN

To bring a bit of perspective on everything, it's good to remember that democracy, or what the West idealises as such, is not necessarily the ultimate regime that every country in the world needs to follow right now for its own sake.Of course there are places when power is abused, taken, stolen from entire populations but not every society is fit or ready for what we'd like to think as the world standard of governance.Cultural, historical reasons, micro and macro economies

genewitch Mar 10, 2025 View on HN

Can you explain what you mean about "democracy in place until recently"?

verdverm May 8, 2025 View on HN

Probably other "democratic" countries?

tehabe Mar 26, 2017 View on HN

I prefer a western democracy over an easter dictatorship any day.And only because the US democracy is going the way of Poland and Hungary and it is close to fail in Turkey doesn't mean it will fail everywhere.Taiwan has a democracy, South Korea just ousted their president because of allegation that she is corrupt.