Surveillance vs Terrorism
The cluster debates the effectiveness of mass government surveillance (e.g., NSA programs) in preventing terrorist attacks, questioning why known terrorists evade detection despite extensive data collection and highlighting privacy trade-offs.
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but but they have all our cell phone and internet records. How can terrorism still happen?
it can't be that easy, there's plenty of groups that would routinely use something like that for terrorism etc. It hasn't happened yet, so it must be more difficult than it looks?
Surely it's worth a few citizen's dick picks being seen to stop terrorism, right?
For what? So that they can spot real terrorists who post their plans on-line?
How can you “catch a terrorist” without proving that they have done something wrong?
But then the terrorists would know too!
I agree about the already-known argument. The Charlie Hebdo murderers, the Boston marathon murderer, Lee Rigby's murderer, they've all been known to the police and/or intelligence services.In which case, a pertinent question to ask is if the aim is to stop such attacks, is it appropriate to spend this much time and effort building a bigger haystack on top of the needles they already have?
shouldn't it be classified because it would warn the terrorists their plan is revealed ?
People who track and profile me online are potential terrorists
You're overthinking terrorism investigations. They don't need to be able to defeat crypto. They just need to be able to threaten Muhammad or whomever with 20 years in the clink. Everyone rolls under that pressure. No one is "hard".