Societal Collapse Survival

Relocating is not a solution, you need to live sustainably where you are. Use wood for heat, pump water manually and grow/breed/hunt/conserve food yourself. The human made system will crumble surprisingly fast (starting with authority, with which borders really are made) and the only thing we ever made by inspiration from nature (the internet) will survive.

At least there's somewhere to get food if civilisation collapses!

Depends on the nature of the collapse. I'm suburban with family and can't last long without supply chain. Too busy foraging, hunting or farming to reboot anything :(

this will be useful in 20 years when society has collapsed, but you want to survive

Everyday, if I can manage and we live as close to wilderness, as we can get.But a fridge, hot showers, supermarket and if needed a hospital, are kind of useful.If all that would be suddenly missing, things would get very bloddy, as hunting cannot sustain 7+ bio people.So I am not wishing for a collaps, even though I do understand (and sometimes feel) the hate of the savage towards the concrete people.

You should expedite your plan. The faster you become self-reliance, the better.Consider this:You are only now planning for this, so either you are early, right on time, or late. Most people are behind the curve on just about everything, but now hear "billionaires are building bunkers". They are already too late, but they have money to make up for it. You don't.Go look at some traditional lifestyle and cultures such as Amish, Indigenous peoples, etc...who have been living

Unfortunately many of us in the United States live in huge urban sprawls that are completely reliant on external resources being brought in to sustain ourselves. If the shit really hits the fan, there are not enough resources to go around. No amount of "coming together" can fix that. Stashing away a bit of water and food is not a hard thing. But we all know that most people will not. It is not a question of economic status, but of ignorance, laziness, and whatnot. The decision of ensur

It's basically impossible unless you're comfortable with your country becoming an apocalyptic wonderland

There are two kind of issue there:- have no "buffer", meaning living in houses where you can't store food in quantity sufficient for a certain, not little, period of time, in some countries there are even official recommendations like Swiss who recommend one week of food and three days of water (I think, not sure about exact data);- live in a not-united population that can arise effectively, no government, no power can stop an angry population, they can only try to avoid com

Thanks. I don't want to be anywhere near any population centre, the biggest threat by far is masses of hungry people imo. I'll build an open-source food production system with only dependency being sunlight later this year inshaAllah, everything else will be closed loop. I don't think any amount of canned food will cut it either, this is Collapse of the entire civilization we are talking about. Maybe 10 years of canned food will let me and my family ride out the initial population