Computers vs Computation
The cluster debates the philosophical distinction between physical computers/hardware and abstract computation, questioning if machines truly reason, think, or do math, or merely perform mechanical operations like circuits or state transitions.
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So in other words, it's not a computer, it's a computation.
It's about computing, not about computers.
If all you have is a computer, everything looks like a computation.
Can you share details on what specifically isn't computing?
Its not about "computers" but rather about "computation".
You're thinking about programs, not computation.
[And a program/computer may not think yet still does interesting computations]
"you can make computers do things you have to think about to understand."
It's a computer bullshitting, the same way as a computer calculating is comparable to a human calculating unaided by a computer.
An insightful take on the evolution of computing. should we also consider the device's ability to execute conditional operations?