Race Genetics Debate
Comments debate whether human races have a biological or genetic basis, contrasting social constructs with genetic clusters, ancestry differences, and population genetics.
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The problem with 'race' as a concept isn't that you can genetically tell people apart.Our tools are so precise you can tell which parent a set of cousins had with DNA tests, this doesn't make them a different species/sub-species or race from each other, even if one group has red hair and the other has black.It's the pointless lumping together of people who are genetically distinct and drawing arbitrary, unscientific lines that's the issue.Presumably th
"That doesn't mean race doesn't exist"Exactly, although not in the traditional sense. There are many many overlapping genetic aspects in humans; We subdivide for political or social reasons, not strictly biological ones. To make the height comparison more fair, it would be as if we divided people into "bigs" or "littles" arbitrarily and formed political parties around it, etc. Height is one biological aspect and even then what is "tall" is sub
The idea that "science tells us race as defined in western countries is not backed by actual biological differences" is a hotly debated subject. See: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/opinion/sunday/genetics-r...One quote from that:> We are learning that while race may be a social construct, differenc
Genetically, "races" don't exist; discrimination based on what you want to call ethnicity is exactly the problem
That article writes about very specific ethnicities with shared ancestry. Race is something entirely different.
Still is? The AI is correlating biological features with self reported race. There are biological differences between people who have different ancestors. Finns are different from brits. The spanish are different from russians. Nigerians look different than somalians. The Japanese look differnet than filipinos.Race picks specific and arbitrary differences , for example hispanic is a different race in US society but black and white based on skin color are as well, indians and east asians are a
everything you just talked about is not 'race' but 'genetic history', and attempting to redefine the commonly used term 'race' for the scientific concept of 'genetic history' isn't super helpful.
“In humans, race is a socially constructed designation, a misleading and harmful surrogate for population genetic differences, and has a long history of being incorrectly identified as the major genetic reason for phenotypic differences between groups. Rather, human genetic variation is the result of many forces—historical, social, biological—and no single variable fully represents this complexity. The structure of genetic variation results from repeated human population mixing and movements acr
Scientifically speaking, there is no "race-specific biology". Race is a social construct. But there are ethnicities which get grouped into racial categories.
This is simply not true: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-...