Something from Nothing

Sure, but this thread wasn't referring to the solid state theory - it is referring to the philosophical problem of creation from nothing.That is, in our usual life, everything that exists comes from something else that exists. But we can't easily apply this rule to the very beginning of the universe (be it the big bang or whatever other model).So, the question is - how do we handle this? Thomas Aquinas said that this is itself proof of God's existence: the universe did not e

Things like the big bang seem to be things after the beginning of the universe. In the same way, the issue with a god is "who created god, and who created that who created god...". If he's eternal, who/what made him eternal? We have the same problem in science, and I think any explanation/theory would have the same problem. Also, I dislike that when some physicists explain this they say, "sure, you can get something from nothing" and then change the definition

"Existence coming out of nothing is ridiculous. We really have no clue how we even got here. Maybe our existence could be proven scientifically down the line, but right now creation is actually the most feasible to my mind, strange enough."But if God created the world then what created God? If you're ok with the answer that God always existed, why wouldn't you be ok with the universe always existing (thereby having no need for a creator God)?

Our human brains cannot grasp the idea of "it simply always existed".Imagine a non-human being (e.g., "god", "beings from another dimension", "beings from an advanced civilization", etc.) telling us the theory of everything (with maths and all, if you want), and the end saying: "btw, there is no origin, and no end. Realiy has always existed". Do you think our scientists (or any other kind of curious human being) will say "Alright, got it.

why there is something at all, i think we can never know. but yeah, likewise. it seems energy/things existing for infinity is the only thing that makes sense, and something coming from nothing is impossible. i think a part of us wants there to be a beginning but there really can't be.

Nobody's asking for anything. Its an observation, nothing more - the universe used to exist as a point and expanded from there. Everything we see, everywhere, points to this. No more a miracle than anything else we see - gravity, light, matter.

Could be an Ouroboros, the entirety of existence being created from nothing in an enormous circular dependency. It sounds farcical but when you think about why the universe exists in the first place, it seems as good a reason as any.

> cuz "nothing" sure didn't make the universe.How do you know?

This is why the "but the universe couldn't spawn out of nothing!" style arguments are so annoying. They completely accept that an all powerful all knowing entity could exist for all of time and not need a creator without any supporting evidence. But the origin of the universe specifically needs to be explained in detail or science is a sham.

Throw everything else away.There are two possibilities -1. There is something, and it has always existed. 2. There is something, and it once did not exist.Either one is weird.The author doesn't address this, and I feel, despite their sparkling credentials, that they should have.