Antitrust and Monopolies

The cluster focuses on the history of US antitrust enforcement against monopolies like Standard Oil and AT&T, debating government interventions, their effectiveness, and the decline in recent enforcement compared to modern tech giants.

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dantheman May 18, 2009 View on HN

If you look throughout history the only monopolies that exist are those granted by the government. Sure standard oil captures a huge chunk of the market (by lowering prices over 90%), but they lose that advantage, by the time antitrust action was taken against them it had already lost a large chunk of its market. Antitrust law was originally passed because of the government involvement in the train industry.Also, regulation increased under bush and so did oversight. We currently have the m

maverick_iceman May 10, 2017 View on HN

Yes, what GP said is true, at least since the 80s. Before that, too powerful monopolies were considered bad for society; that's why Standard Oil was broken up. However, understanding of US antitrust law underwent a shift in the 80s - now a monopoly has to actively hurt the end consumer for it to be prosecuted under the Sherman antitrust act.

caymanjim Jun 14, 2021 View on HN

When Standard Oil was broken up, it wasn't a 100% monopoly. Nor was AT&T. I'm not sure what your criteria are, but if you're just being pedantic, it doesn't seem to have any historical bearing. The great monopolies of US history that prompted legal change never had complete control. They just had de facto control due to outsized influence and predatory (or at least anticompetitive) behavior.

mbesto Oct 21, 2020 View on HN

The same antitrust law that dictated breaking up AT&T and Standard Oil (among others): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_antitrust_law#Mo...

IYasha Jan 6, 2023 View on HN

LOL. What will that change? Look back into history of Standard Oil and other monopolists. They were formally split, sure, but nothing did change.

politician May 9, 2022 View on HN

You don't seem to be reading what I've written three times now. Perhaps you aren't aware of antitrust law, its purpose, and relevant cases: you might not know about how AT&T ("Ma Bell") was broken up using antitrust law, or how Microsoft was found guilty of abusing its monopoly position by bundling Internet Explorer. Standard Oil was the impetus for the legislation - that's a good one to learn about.More recently, businesses have created duopolies of convenie

est31 Apr 27, 2020 View on HN

The US has a history of breaking up monopolies. Think of Standard Oil or Bell breakup. Usually when they react they react late, but when they do it, they make sure they don't have to come back again, as in they are very thorough with their breakup.

lkrubner Nov 19, 2017 View on HN

Standard Oil, AT&T and Microsoft can all be beaten -- just as soon as the government steps in and takes action against them. Capital tends to concentrate over time. It takes government action to break up monopolies. There are very few examples of monopolies fading away on their own.

tjalfi Jan 24, 2018 View on HN

The US used to have fairly strong antitrust enforcement.Here is an excerpt from [0]."To get a flavor of how thoroughly the federal government managed competition throughout the economy in the 1960s, consider the case of Brown Shoe Co., Inc. v. United States, in which the Supreme Court blocked a merger that would have given a single distributor a mere 2 percent share of the national shoe market."[0] <a href="http://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/novdec-2015&

jophde Apr 3, 2014 View on HN

The problem is that Government hasn't enforced Anti-Trust Laws since 1970. Things are more deregulated but the only companies that can compete are already part of the Fascist state. Do you remember when you had more than 10 choices for Internet? Breaking up monopolies should be a primary function of the US Government. Now it encourages them.