China Tech Market Access
The cluster discusses China's massive domestic market sustaining local tech giants like Tencent and Alibaba with limited global expansion, contrasted against Western companies' exclusion via the Great Firewall and protectionist policies, with debates on reciprocity and open competition.
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Google, Meta (Oculus) are banned in China and still produce their HW there.It was about getting a slice of hugely lucrative pie of customer market.
I think author misses that the Chinese market isn't free and most of the western sites are blocked by the great Firewall. I think their market would look at lot differently if their market was free and anyone could compete on it.
Right. AFAIK, China is unlike Japan, UK, or USA. To operate with similar economic structure and policies will be suicide to a country as big as China where millions of people are still farmers and villagers and way under poverty level. We have to look at competition too. It seems China wants to develop a mature marketplace, so native companies have room to compete with the outside world. Else, there wouldn't be a Baidu, Youku, or JD.
Those other countries better have as big a market as China, or Google will choose to GTFO
Maybe Tencent and Alibaba dont need to focus more outside of China. China in itself is a huge market. Also the reason we dont hear about these services is that HN is largely representative of the English speaking part of the world - a big part indeed but not the whole.
Just spitballing, but market access to China and the like?
The US doesn't need to - as the article indicates, most Chinese tech companies have no interest in operating outside of Asia. To give some concrete examples: WeChat (微信), which is entirely ubiquitous in China, has essentially zero market share in the US - parts of the app aren't even localized to English! Baidu is the biggest search engine in China, and it doesn't have an English version. Alibaba operates one of the world's largest online stores (like Amazon), but has no pres
Yeah pretty much just because it's Chinese. China doesn't allow American internet companies access to their market either though.
It does in China, but maybe the market is too small??
China will consider it a favor if you block your own "offensive" company from the Chinese market.